Hi, I posted my car forsale on DSMTRADER and 3 hours later I got this in return.

Please be aware of all the scam artists out there. Injoy.


Please be aware of Scams.
This happend from DSMTRADER!!!!
Please READ



First Email

LORDPAXIN,
Your ad, 91 Tsi Awd, Jdm(engine Tranny, Ecu, Cyclone, Rearend 4bolt), is being replied to. Below are the comments posted in this reply.
Hello,
My name is Marc i`m interested in purchasing your advertised car and the price $3,700 is okay with me,And i will like you not to worry about the shipping, I contact a friend in states so he said he can organize an agent in the Us would be on ground to pick up the car as soon as we seal this transaction and i will like you to know that my mode of payment is by cashier's cheque drawn from an American bank,if this is okay by you ,kindly get back to me with your full name,contact address and your phone number so as to issue out the cheque in your name asap . It is a very good car.I Iook forward to hear from you soon. Respond asap if this is ok by you.Thanks Marc Nelson..
marc
[email protected]


Second Email

Dear Adams,

Thanks for your mail.I will advise you to get me a home contact address as fedex will not be able to deliever to a p.o box.and alonmg with it i will do like you to get back to me with your phone number so that we can commuincated easily.
Thanks looking foward to read from you soonest.
Marc.

Third Email

Dear Adam,

Thanks for the mail,i am o.k with your price.Inrespect of payment i have a client in the U.S who is owing me $8,500.All i need to do to make payment easier and faster is to instruct him to procure a cashier's chque and mail it to you on the address and name you want on the cheque and you know it takes 24hrs for a cashier's cheque to clear in the U.S.But i would want to know if i can trust you to send my balance to me via western union money transfer after the money must have cleared in your bank to enable me prepay the shipping company here so that they can instruct their office in the Canada to come and pick the vehicles from your location.Please mail me asap to enable me arrange payment.

.
Thanks.
Marc.


Yahoo Conversation


paxin: Hi
marc_nelson99: hi
paxin: This is adam
marc_nelson99: which of the adam please
paxin: With the car for sale
marc_nelson99: okay nice talking to you
marc_nelson99: how did you know i was online
paxin: nice talking with you too.
paxin: I added your yahoo to my list
paxin: So where are you from?
marc_nelson99: Presently i'm in spain on a business trip but i'm based in Uk
paxin: Cool,
paxin: IM in west virginia USA
marc_nelson99: okay that is very nice
marc_nelson99: what do you do for a living
paxin: I am a Maintenance Technicion for a company here
paxin: called KS of West Virginia
paxin: I work on computers and machinery.
marc_nelson99: i will like you to resend me the your ontact address in accordance
marc_nelson99: through mail box
paxin: oh ok
paxin: ill do it right now
marc_nelson99: how much are u giving out everything
paxin: I dont understand that question.
marc_nelson99: i mean how much are u giving out the car last
paxin: I still dont fully understand the question.
paxin: how much do i want for it?
marc_nelson99: i said how much do you want to give out your car
paxin: Real bad, I have another car, and i need money to pay for it
paxin: It needs a new engine and parts.
paxin: so if i sell my car, I am going to be fixing up my other one.
marc_nelson99: so how much u giving it out
paxin: Sorry, i dont understand what you mean by giving it out.
marc_nelson99: i said how much are you will to sell your car
marc_nelson99: i mean the last price
paxin: Oh, 3700$ is what im asking.
marc_nelson99: k
paxin: Do you want the extra engine block and head like i said in the ad?
marc_nelson99: i sent u an email kindly checik your box
paxin: ok
marc_nelson99: did get it
paxin: Yes.
marc_nelson99: how do feel
paxin: So, your friend will send me 8,500$
marc_nelson99: yeap
paxin: and ill send you back the rest?
marc_nelson99: no you will be sending the remaining balance to my shipping agent
paxin: Oh, i seee.
paxin: if you are comfortable with that, then sure, send the check.
paxin: and I will need the contact information of the shipping agent,
paxin: after i cash your check. and it clears.
paxin: to send him the other money.
marc_nelson99: yes i will get that to you after the must have been sent out to you
paxin: ok.
marc_nelson99: could you please send me an email indicating the payment terms are okay by you
paxin: ok am doing now
paxin: sent
marc_nelson99: seeing it
marc_nelson99: reading it now
paxin: ok
marc_nelson99: k
paxin: so what now.
marc_nelson99: i will instruct my client to forward the cheque tommorow and i'm pretty sure you will be getting the cheque by next week tuesaday latest or wednesday
paxin: ok it sounds good to me.
paxin: after the check clears, I will get started with the shipping, do you have a favorite shipping company, or is someone else going to arrange shipping?
marc_nelson99: don't worry about all that leave that to me
paxin: ok
paxin: ill wait for your check
marc_nelson99: do you use yahoo
paxin: yes every day
marc_nelson99: how come you have a yahoo messenger as
marc_nelson99: but the email box you use in sending me message is not yahoo
paxin: right, the emial i use for you, is my Internet providers Email service
paxin: its more secure.
paxin: for business
marc_nelson99: um use blackbearnet.net
paxin: yea.
marc_nelson99: why
paxin: that is who i use my internet from.
paxin: and my mail is faster, and i have a bigger mailbox.
marc_nelson99: k
paxin: So, what do you like abuout my car.
paxin: what do you like about it
marc_nelson99: i'm buying it for my first son as a gift
paxin: Cool, why did you decide on me, there is lots of cars for sale.
marc_nelson99: my conscience
paxin: explain?
marc_nelson99: i deal with my conscience
marc_nelson99: it sells me u are the rigth person
paxin: ok.
paxin: i thought it was because of the Mexican turbo damper system, i installed, that made you want it, hmmm.... but i gues youll behappy withthe damper right?
marc_nelson99: i love that too
paxin: Do you know anything about the damper system? only problem is it makes the car have a pink colord shadow.
marc_nelson99: no problem
paxin: awesome
paxin: so how old is your son
marc_nelson99: 26 y
paxin: kool
marc_nelson99: how hold is your first son
paxin: i dont have any kids
marc_nelson99: hoowoo
marc_nelson99: when u going have one
paxin: i dunno, after i get married
marc_nelson99: k gatt to leave
paxin: ok have a nice day.
marc_nelson99: thanks
marc_nelson99: hi
marc_nelson99: u still there
paxin: yes
marc_nelson99: some just came in and said he is your accountant how through is that ?
paxin: I have a friend who goes over my books
paxin: I told him about the car sale and he was interrested in it
paxin: i didnt know he would message ou
paxin: IM sorry for that.
marc_nelson99: zacmyers1: Hi this is paxins accountant
marc_nelson99: hello
marc_nelson99: may i know u better
zacmyers1: I would like to talk to you about some of the things that are going to occur induring this transaction.
zacmyers1: You do know that all money wired or cashier checks will be traced and relocated to point of origin. And any foul play will be reported and denied wire transfered.
zacmyers1: Is this ok?
zacmyers1: Hello are you there?
marc_nelson99: that was all his message
paxin: he just wants to look out for me.
paxin: he doesnt trust international sales.
paxin: and things like that.
marc_nelson99: ok i gat to leave you both
paxin: what do you mean?
marc_nelson99: may be his going to buy it from you
paxin: no.
paxin: he doesnt want it.
paxin: its whatever you want to do.
paxin: if you want to buy it then do.
paxin: but if you dont, then that is ok too.
paxin: Are you there?
marc_nelson99: okay thanks
marc_nelson99: bye
paxin: bye.
marc_nelson99: bye
paxin: Ill let you know when the check arrives, have a nice day.

zacmyers1 is me.. and here is my convo with him.



zacmyers1: Hi this is paxins accountant
marc_nelson99: hello
marc_nelson99: may i know u better
zacmyers1: I would like to talk to you about some of the things that are going to occur induring this transaction.
zacmyers1: You do know that all money wired or cashier checks will be traced and relocated to point of origin. And any foul play will be reported and denied wire transfered.
zacmyers1: Is this ok?
zacmyers1: Hello are you there?
zacmyers1: Also you do know that the car is in non working order and that it has boost leak ... do you know what boost leak is and how it will effect the terms of this car?
marc_nelson99: yeap
zacmyers1: Ok.
zacmyers1: there are some questions i must ask you.
zacmyers1: What are you intentions of this car?
zacmyers1: and how will you be arriving to pick it up?
zacmyers1: He
zacmyers1: y
zacmyers1: answer me please
zacmyers1: You do reliaze that paxin had ### but sex in the car?
zacmyers1: and there and jizz stains on the seats?
zacmyers1: you where notified of this ?
zacmyers1: correct?
marc_nelson99: please i have already drop a not that i'm leaving before ame in
marc_nelson99: as you know time are different
zacmyers1: answer those questions
zacmyers1: then im done
zacmyers1: and we can begin the transaction
zacmyers1: like tommorow
zacmyers1: you dont mind the ### butsex jizz stains correct?
marc_nelson99: stop asking some silly question
zacmyers1: im for real
zacmyers1: there are stains
zacmyers1: on the driver seat
zacmyers1: from seamen
marc_nelson99: 4 get it
zacmyers1: is that ok?
marc_nelson99: bye
zacmyers1: k
marc_nelson99: i dont feel like talking 2 u
marc_nelson99: bye
zacmyers1: ok
zacmyers1: you cant buy car
zacmyers1: All transactions closed
marc_nelson99: bye
marc_nelson99: i think you know how to drive then drive
zacmyers1: drive?
zacmyers1: i know how to drive
zacmyers1: do you?
marc_nelson99: then go buy tyhe car from him and drive
zacmyers1: i dont want the car
zacmyers1: it has jizz stains on it
zacmyers1: the doors are broke
zacmyers1: it has pink wheels
zacmyers1: do you honestly want this car?
zacmyers1: or is it a scam?
marc_nelson99: yeah
zacmyers1: wich?
zacmyers1: ok listen
zacmyers1: i have reported you
zacmyers1: to the fbi for internet fraud
zacmyers1: i have logged ip address
zacmyers1: But if you admit to this scam
zacmyers1: i will drop all request
Yahoo! Messenger: marc_nelson99 has logged out. (2/3/2004 10:56 PM)

what a moron...

Damn Adam. That sucks. You guys owned him pretty well though .

same shit happen with me but thru autotrader bro. dude from uk contacted me saying he wants to buy my truck for the listed price and all this shit how he was sending a check and when we cashed it, the shipping people would come and pick it up. same shit happened with tommygun. basically a scam SO WATCH OUT IF UK PEOPLE CONTACT YOU IF U HAVE RIDE FOR SALE.

suppose to have gotten the check 2 weeks ago and he said his client was on vacation and shit

I got about ten of those i blew them off pretty quick. I simply told them to send me a check and i would cover the shipping as soon as the check cleared. Never heard back from them

I just love a car with buttsex stains on the seat.

Regards,

why would you pay for a car with butsex stains on it? I mean 8700 dollars for a 91 with pink shadow and pink wheels and butsex stains on them i mean come on how big of a scam can you get.

I had some A-hole try to do that to me through autotrader when i was selling my 2g gst on there. Said he wanted to buy my car for a nigerian prince or something, and wouldnt answer when i asked why he didnt want a gsx

I don't get it. Did I miss something? I must've skipped over a paragraph or something. I dont see at what point he was trying to scam. If he sends you a check, and its good then hows that a scam?

Are you living under a rock man? :thumbdown

yea he'll send u a check then u cash it and next time you go the atm or whatever and u c u have a -8700 balance so thats how u get ####ed

Basically he tracks the check and thats why the always send like a cashiers check and weird stuff like that... but trust me i had a friend get his whole account fscked up. over a 20 dollar casheir check.

Do a Google for "scam cashier's car purchase". This is going on like crazy right now. If you want to, the FBI is probably interested in this case.

It might help you with that problem on your record.

A note about the Modern World: a "cashier's check" isn't any more valuable nor trustworthy than a regular old personal check. With greater and greater frequency, cashier's checks are being forged, and it still takes a bank a couple of days (don't ask me, I have no effing idea) to actually move money. Float, probably. And if this starts late on a Thursday, the truth may be obscured to mid-day the next Tuesday.

You just have to be as careful as you can. Just short of paranoid.

Wait. Can't you just hold on to the car or whatever you may be selling until you are certain the check has cleared? And when it doesn't you get pissed and yell at the guy.

In-Depth explanation
http://www.used-car-advisor.com/car-buyer-scam.htm

Hi
thanks for info, if it wasnt forthe scam, the person who might by my car now wouldn thave known about it

im going to report the incident. thanks.

I told the clown to paypal me the mony or use an escrow service. Never heard from him again:laugh:

*smacks forehead* not this shit again.

wow, this is some f*cked up stuff, but i would never think about something like this, i'll remember if this eva happens to someone i know!

HA. If he sent me more then it was supposed to be I would never send him anything back. Id disappear. And being that it is fake nothing happens. So yea. Why would you send more money then you need. Its an obvious scam. First time I heard about this tho.

Stalk em'.

Originally posted by Eclipsed
HA. If he sent me more then it was supposed to be I would never send him anything back. Id disappear. And being that it is fake nothing happens. So yea. Why would you send more money then you need. Its an obvious scam. First time I heard about this tho.

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emmmm...dude by "disappering" you give your car away for free. I've been scamed by a guy in Minisota -$300 I couldn't imagine losing -3,000 Just tell them to use Paypal

Originally posted by TheBoosted96GST
emmmm...dude by "disappering" you give your car away for free. I've been scamed by a guy in Minisota -$300 I couldn't imagine losing -3,000 Just tell them to use Paypal

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"If he sent me more then it was supposed to be I would never send him anything back."

Umm by him never picking up the car how is it given away for free. Keywords there, "never send anything back".

you still wouldnt make any money
because the check would bounce