Unless it is something new to me you cannot use an Evo 8 or 9 turbo on a DSM. The hot side is on the opposite side. You may be confusing this with the Evo 3 16G which also had the same 4G63 motor the DSM's have.

Nope you can use that turbo get a 16g.

im def not confusing it, it was a twin scroll evo 8 turbo manifold for a 1st or 2nd gen. i only saw it one time. and if you turn the turbo the other way it would work on the 1st or 2nd or you can relocate the alternator.

Why go through all that trouble plus idk how you are going to route your downpipe with the hot side on the other side. Just buy a complete bolt on Evo 3 16G, Small, or Big 16G.

thanks duy, that is exactly what im looking for

and 97, the reason i wont buy another 16g is because my sister has one on her car and i want to do something alittle different. i have all the parts left from my evo and i can fab alot of stuff myself as i did with that. this is also going on an extra car i have as well. just a project i wanted to play with.

Well there you go.

We make a turbo manifold to fit a twin scroll evo turbo on a 1g or 2g. It works very well.
Here is the link: Revshift | STORE - Turbo Manifold - DSM- Evo 8/9 Twin Scroll - (Powered by CubeCart)

nice, that is very nice looking. i think that is actually the one i saw.

I was always wondering that. I keep hearing people say the hot side is on the wrong side, blah, blah, and the intake will face the wrong direction.

Why not just flip it around and build a manifold?

yea, its really not that hard or that big of a deal. and why wouldn't it work??? i see people cob things together and turbo old saterns and stupid things like that.

the main reason i posted this is to see what others have used to do it, what was out on the market, and what everything looked like. i have the spare turbo so i figured why not put it to use, it will def flow more than a evo 3 16g.

wevo1985 said:

im def not confusing it, it was a twin scroll evo 8 turbo manifold for a 1st or 2nd gen. i only saw it one time. and if you turn the turbo the other way it would work on the 1st or 2nd or you can relocate the alternator.

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Oh, you mean this manifold?


Damn, John beat me to it!

Can you? Yes. Does it make much sense to? No.

SpawnedX said:

Can you? Yes. Does it make much sense to? No.

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It does make sense, you can run any of the FP Evo based turbos now.

Revshift just finished up the o2 housing for the turbo as well.

Detroit Style said:

It does make sense, you can run any of the FP Evo based turbos now.

Revshift just finished up the o2 housing for the turbo as well.

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Unless the OP clarifies...we are talking about a stock Evo turbo.

SpawnedX said:

Can you? Yes. Does it make much sense to? No.

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The Evo twin-scroll housing has been proven to work very well in applications from auto-x all the way to 9 second drag cars, this is just fact.

The Revshift setup does not require you to buy $500 worth of waste-gates to retain *TRUE* twin-scroll performance. An FP black starts looking pretty attractive to 1g/2g owners once you save them the cost of buying at least one if not two wastegates/dump tubes on top of an 82/86 HTA.

The picture above is my engine bay, John and I came up with the idea a few months ago, and the result is what you see above. I'll have to go take some more pictures and post them up later.

EDIT: I have an Evo 9 turbo for it, and I still don't see it as a waste. It will be more responsive than a single scroll "DSM" style Evo3 16g, I had the turbo already, and the Evo9 16g has made well over 400whp many times. There are plenty of used 8-9 16g's around, and this is still the best bang-for-the-buck setup IMO out there. You can bolt this on with a 16g, and then upgrade all the way to a 62mm Billet wheel if you want to, and still use the SAME MANIFOLD!

It saves you from buying an FP manifold/16g, then selling it all later to go T3, and even then deal with more lag than a comparable Evo turbo option.

I'd love to run a twin scroll 16g.

Anyways why not run an evo 10 turbo now that those are coming onto the market more? They allready face the right direction.

That's great, but this is the newbie section and the kid said Evo turbo and not FP Black.

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That's great, but this is the newbie section and the kid said Evo turbo and not FP Black.

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That's great, but the picture of the manifold has a stock Evo9 turbo on it, looks applicable to me.

DSMraver said:

That's great, but the picture of the manifold has a stock Evo9 turbo on it, looks applicable to me.

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The only manifold I see looks pretty pricey for results that have been achieved off simple direct bolt on turbos with these cars for years. Last I checked, I didn't say it couldn't be done.

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The only manifold I see looks pretty pricey for results that have been achieved off simple direct bolt on turbos with these cars for years. Last I checked, I didn't say it couldn't be done.

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You're comparing apples to oranges, and you're the only one doing it (OP IS NOT INTERESTED). You can't get twin-scroll performance out of a DSM housing turbo, it's simply a physics/thermodynamics problem, so no "bolt-on" turbo will perform as well, no.

I came here to give some insight on a part that *I* had designed/built for *my car*, that the *OP* asked for.

People like yourself are the reason I don't post more on this site; always hating on a part that you've NEVER seen in person, let alone seen a dyno chart of, simply because you don't like it personally or it doesn't agree with how you want to build your car.

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You're comparing apples to oranges, and you're the only one doing it (OP IS NOT INTERESTED). You can't get twin-scroll performance out of a DSM housing turbo, it's simply a physics/thermodynamics problem, so no "bolt-on" turbo will perform as well, no.

I came here to give some insight on a part that *I* had designed/built for *my car*, that the *OP* asked for.

People like yourself are the reason I don't post more on this site; always hating on a part that you've NEVER seen in person, let alone seen a dyno chart of, simply because you don't like it personally or it doesn't agree with how you want to build your car.

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No what I am saying to you, and you don't want to accept, is that whatever his goals are, have been accomplished on other turbos without going through this rigamarole. If the OP wants to do it, then he should just do it, if he even has to ask if it is possible...then...well , what a waste of a post.

You are free to stop posting here again. I could care less how you build your car. I answered the core question, yes it can be done, no I don't see the point. If your point is to prove it can be done then go on ahead, if your point is to run 10's on this turbo because 10's on a GT35R are boring, well whatever.

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No what I am saying to you, and you don't want to accept, is that whatever his goals are, have been accomplished on other turbos without going through this rigamarole. If the OP wants to do it, then he should just do it, if he even has to ask if it is possible...then...well , what a waste of a post.

You are free to stop posting here again. I could care less how you build your car. I answered the core question, yes it can be done, no I don't see the point. If your point is to prove it can be done then go on ahead, if your point is to run 10's on this turbo because 10's on a GT35R are boring, well whatever.

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The OP's "goals" here today were to find my manifold.

Re-read the original post my man...

Well from a person who still has a 14b on there car it is a great option but I would still like to see more pictures from different angles, dyno charts, and other turbos bolted to it since the Evo 9 turbo seems to hang pretty low already. This is a GREAT idea for people looking to get better flow and not having to go to a T3/T4 based turbo sicne we all know twin scroll is good stuff haha