Thinking about picking one of these up. My goal is 350whp on pump gas, how well does this turbo perform say compared to a e316g, 20g, or other 50 trim variants?

I would suggest you search the forums. This turbo has been talked to death. Theres alot of information for you to make a decision plus theres a thread that slowboy made showing dyno information as well. But if 350whp is all you want then get the e16g or the 50trim.

i did search but didnt find all the answers i was looking for.

and btw 350whp is really hard to do on the e316g on pump gas

I had 3 of them already on previous cars.. I have made a few threads a LONG time ago, And also several posts about them in other peoples threads. It sounds ''cheap'' at first, Until you ad up the cost of the internal wg, the oil feed and drain lines, a 3" intake or a coupler and some rigging to your stock intake, Etc..

say i have the lines and 3" intake already. And im not worried about the internal wg. What do you think of this turbo as far as me hitting my goals on pump gas and being a daily driver.

I am also interested in how this compares to an E316g. If anyone can link me to some threads of discussion about it, I'd be greatful. I am going to do a search and see if I come up with anything.

TSIMonsteR said:

I am also interested in how this compares to an E316g. If anyone can link me to some threads of discussion about it, I'd be greatful. I am going to do a search and see if I come up with anything.

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The V trim will not make as much power as the MHI Evo III 16g.

I was hoping it would, but it will not work well above 18-19 PSI for us. It is a great little turbo, but I have some 57 trims from BEP right now that I can let go very inexpensive. These will do 350 on pump easily.

MGH

i opted for the v trim instead of the 57 trim.. i hope itwasnt a mistake...i need to keep the power on the ground..fwd...

Slowboy said:

The V trim will not make as much power as the MHI Evo III 16g.

I was hoping it would, but it will not work well above 18-19 PSI for us. It is a great little turbo, but I have some 57 trims from BEP right now that I can let go very inexpensive. These will do 350 on pump easily.

MGH

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oh really now

http://www.bullseyepower.com/manny.php

awesome guys! those two vids just made my day!

@slowboy
i just want to know(havent strted car yet,missing some small stuff,) do you sell the vtrim with the low pressure wga or a stiffer one..or better, do you have an idea to whats its set at when your shipping em out?? (i got mine from you guys a few months back with the internal 38mm WG)

does anyone have a compressor map for the bullseye turbo?

TSIMonsteR said:

does anyone have a compressor map for the bullseye turbo?

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halik008 said:

oh really now

http://www.bullseyepower.com/manny.php

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EVO III 16G on my dyno still made more, and you cannot run over 20 PSI on a V trim without massive surge.

Good luck, we made over 100 passes on the dyno with it.

Mike Huml

Raph said:

awesome guys! those two vids just made my day!

@slowboy
i just want to know(havent strted car yet,missing some small stuff,) do you sell the vtrim with the low pressure wga or a stiffer one..or better, do you have an idea to whats its set at when your shipping em out?? (i got mine from you guys a few months back with the internal 38mm WG)

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I do not think we stock less than a 17 PSI actuator on most of BEP turbos, however we have had request leave here with the 11 PSI unit.

Mike Huml

halik008 said:

oh really now

http://www.bullseyepower.com/manny.php

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http://www.slowboyracing.com/downloads/dyno%20graphs/Evo-III-16G/E316G%20Tubular%20vs.%20Cast.JPG

Just for arguements sake.

This was the same motor we dynoed V trim on.

Mike Huml

PS... I like the V trim for low boost 300-325 WHP applications

Slowboy said:

EVO III 16G on my dyno still made more, and you cannot run over 20 PSI on a V trim without massive surge.

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adjust the gain....

http://www.slowboyracing.com/downloa...vs. Cast.JPG

Just for arguements sake.

This was the same motor we dynoed V trim on.

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Same day pulls? Same exact setup, not just same motor? same gas? same tune?

Hub HP =! wheel HP

Slowboy said:

I do not think we stock less than a 17 PSI actuator on most of BEP turbos, however we have had request leave here with the 11 PSI unit.

Mike Huml

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hmm. i would like a low pressure wga then,can you help me out? im in germany running high compression on a 4g63 eurospec NT .. i need the lower pressure wga.

further details per pm? (calling your shop always costs me a major fortune..super long distance)

thanks

Slowboy said:

The V trim will not make as much power as the MHI Evo III 16g.

I was hoping it would, but it will not work well above 18-19 PSI for us. It is a great little turbo, but I have some 57 trims from BEP right now that I can let go very inexpensive. These will do 350 on pump easily.

MGH

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How much?

halik008 said:

adjust the gain....



Same day pulls? Same exact setup, not just same motor? same gas? same tune?

Hub HP =! wheel HP

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Are you on some type of medication we should know about?

MGH

halik008 said:

Hub HP =! wheel HP

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Your point? They're testing on the same dyno...

Speak to each other like adults, next one will get the thread closed.

halik008 said:

adjust the gain....

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WTF Please explain.....

halik008 said:

Same day pulls? Same exact setup, not just same motor? same gas? same tune?

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See post #5 and post #7.

halik008 said:

Hub HP =! wheel HP

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What's your point?

autronicDSM said:

Your point? They're testing on the same dyno...

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i'm talking about SBR pulls charts VS. bullseye challenge vids.....



also i find it funny how in the SBR tubo comparisons the evo 16g outperformed almost all of the bigger turbos which flow more by some major horse power while 99% of the time it's always the other way around. Sounds to me like somebody has the tune perfected for the 16g and done mediocare tune on all the other turbos.....