Is anyone running with a Profec E-01 w/ E-manage setup on 96-99 GSX. I am about to purchase 625cc injectors and instead of the S-AFC I am going with the Greddy E-manage system. I was wondering if I could get some help with tuning it. Thanks in advance.



- Patrick

TDX said:

Is anyone running with a Profec E-01 w/ E-manage setup on 96-99 GSX. I am about to purchase 625cc injectors and instead of the S-AFC I am going with the Greddy E-manage system. I was wondering if I could get some help with tuning it. Thanks in advance.



- Patrick

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i would also like to know... and is the profec 01 just a mbc or does it do other thing?

wow holy cow , ok first off YES GET THE E-MANAGE the e-manage is probably the best tuning tool besides a full stand alone.

you can change injector duty cycle and duration on a RPM and throttle position based curve, along with timing advance along with air fuel, i would actually recommend that you DO NOT get an E-01 its really not worth the money, spend your money on an innovative systems wideband (LM-1) along with you e-manage. Oh and the E-manage will compensate for larger injectors, just type in the stock cc's and the larger cc's, and it comes up with some multiplication, so they run like stock....except when you need em of course it also has controllers for many different MAF's

This is IMHO why you should get the LM-1 instead of the E-01: The LM-1 software can interface the LM-1 directly with the E-manage and all you have to do is type in a desired A/F ratio, and make a 3rd gear pull and the LM-1 Software with give you a grid (identical to the Airflow grid in the e-manage), and in the grid will be the number that when put into its corresponding blank in the E-manage grid will achieve that A/F ratio which you have selected, across the board pretty handy huh, and the LM-1 can be found on group buys and sometimes goes on sale for under 300.........but don't get me wrong, this stuff isn't just one big walk in the park, theres ALOT of computer knowledge and wiring involved, but any well educated PATIENT person willing to sit down and be patient with it should be able to figure it out, i mean hell i did

mitsuclipsegsx said:

i would also like to know... and is the profec 01 just a mbc or does it do other thing?

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no the profec is a Electronic boost controller, it uses motors and things in a little box so instead of pressure ramping up from a manual boost controller and the wastegate slowly opening to desired boost, an electronic boost controller will keep the wastegate sealed to right before desired boost than wip it open, its sposed to spool better, along with that the E-01 has fully gear selectable boost setting meaning to prevent wheelspin you can run 9 lbs in first 14 in second 18 in third and 25 in fourth if thats what tickles your fancy its one of those things thats really really nice to have but the features just arent worth the price tag IMHO

1stgensleeper said:

no the profec is a Electronic boost controller, it uses motors and things in a little box so instead of pressure ramping up from a manual boost controller and the wastegate slowly opening to desired boost, an electronic boost controller will keep the wastegate sealed to right before desired boost than wip it open, its sposed to spool better, along with that the E-01 has fully gear selectable boost setting meaning to prevent wheelspin you can run 9 lbs in first 14 in second 18 in third and 25 in fourth if thats what tickles your fancy its one of those things thats really really nice to have but the features just arent worth the price tag IMHO

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why would you want different psi in each gear, wouldn't you just want to have 20 psi in each gear??

im assuming due to your Name that you have an AWD, therefore you dont have to worry about different boost in each gear, but FWD guys have this problem called wheelspin, and need to limit boost in each gear, also lowering your boost in first gear makes launching alot easier and the 1 2 shift go alot smoother, but with an AWD you really dont gain anything from that except the "Quicker" spool from an electronic boost controller which i dont even know if it does infact make it spool faster, but an electronic boost controller will be lots more accurate in holding boost, so thats why i said the E-01 really isnt worth the money cause all you get is more accurate boost, for the price tag.....eh

Very cool, Info. The reason why I am asking this is because I already have the E-01 installed. And to finish off this stage I need to upgrade to bigger injectors, except HRC is only supporting me if I get the S-AFC setup, and since I am going with the E-manage since it complements the e-01 better I'm on my own... If you need to know anything about my setup it should be up to date on my profile and just reply back to this post. I pretty much have all of the stage 1 setup done from the tech guide and I am working my way through the stage 2.


Patrick

PS: I was going to downgrade and get the profec B spec 2 boost controller and go with the S-AFC setup, but i thought it would be tough to sell the e-01... hehe

Okay I just did a little searching and visited Vfaq. So there are a few more things to consider before upgrading injectors... Correct me if I'm wrong here.

Fuel upgrade path:

- Fuel pump rewire
- Fuel pump
- FPR
- Fuel rail
- Fuel filter
- SS fuel lines
- Injectors
- AFC

Anything else I am missing? please add. I didnt know there were more tiny steps in between than just upgrading the pump.

- Patrick

Fuel Rail really isnt worth it, i know people making 450 AWHP on the stock fuel rail, as long as you have decent injectors and a FPR buy a 255lph pump and you can flow like 700 HP, you also really dont need SS fuel lines either, thats all up to you, but with a FPR a decent fuel pump and injectors, along with the e-manage you shouldnt have a problem (with supporting mods) making upwards of 450 WHP....another thing, if you already have the E-01 DEFINATELY DO NOT downgrade and get an AFC, the E-manage is F-ing awesome, and is worth every penny, but if i were you save the money and get the new E-manage ULTIMATE, it adds about 3 features onto the regular e-manage along with FULL DATALOGGING not to mention it looks alot more badass

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ultimate/photo/index.html

thats a link to pics of the e-manage ultimate

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ultimate/screen_shots/index.html

thats a link to screen shots of the features, and if you go look the possibilities ARE ENDLESS the only thing is that its 540 bucks, but worth it, cause the only thing better is Haltech full standalone

Very nice, and thanks for everyone's response. I fell asleep reading all about air and fuel ratio stuff. Having this hurricane passing by florida has my on alert status for my job. I will look into the E-manage ultimate. thanks again.



- Patrick

Is anyone running the Ultimate? WHat features does it add... its worth close to twice what you can get a "Blue" e-Manage...

I hear that with the Ultimate you can eliminate the MAF? Kind of like AEM does in Speed Density Mode.

If this is so... would the Ultimate be a step up from the DSMLink??

neuralracing said:

Is anyone running the Ultimate? WHat features does it add... its worth close to twice what you can get a "Blue" e-Manage...

I hear that with the Ultimate you can eliminate the MAF? Kind of like AEM does in Speed Density Mode.

If this is so... would the Ultimate be a step up from the DSMLink??

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I just installed this weekend... Way better than the blue i had

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ultimate/features/index.html

Yes you can eliminate the MAF, you can now add or remove fuel without changing air flow or timing... I hooked-up an m300 A/F wideband to use the autotune, you can set a target a/f and it will adjust the injector map for you... tons of cool stuff in it now

1stgensleeper said:

the only thing is that its 540 bucks, but worth it, cause the only thing better is Haltech full standalone

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Jeeze, that's a bit MUCH.

Now, don't get me wrong. I love the E-manage. Had the blue one in my 92 GSX and had the GReddy MAP wired in to tune with load instead of throttle. Nice stuff.

BUT....

540 bucks and Haltech Standalone don't even go together in a sentence. Thats an Apples to bananas comparison.

For the money, DSMlink owns. Because it is engineered for DSM functions only. No giving up a function just because you don't have the "optional" sensor, or that you car isn't a Nissan.

Plus studder box, anit-lag, soleniod outputs (Nitrous), Volumetric Efficiency Global adjustment, Timing, fuel +/- 50%, etc, etc, etc.

This thing is dangerous compared to even the ultimate e-manage for the money.

Nice unit, but certainly not the *Best option.

I was wondering when someone was going to chime in with DSMlink. Why go with something generic when you can go with something tailor made? I'd go with DSMlink anyday.

I dont want to knock emanage, its a half decent although expensive piggyback setup, a great route to go for a newer car like an SRT4 where there aren't many options, but if you own a DSM and have the option of going with something so trick that is proven to work with these cars and has one of the most helpful forums and great customer support to boot than whats the debate?

all i have to say is that you cant talk shit about an e-manage untill youve tuned with it, I live in wisconsin and theres not a whole lot of tuner cars up here, and when my bro was considering getting an e-manage everyone tried to talk him out of it like you guys are, well he bought the e-manage and now 4 other people that tried to talk him out of it are now proud e-manage owners oh and about comparing it to haltech, go look at its features on http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ultimate/screen_shots/index.html i know i already listed that link as well as others but obviously you guys arent looking at it, the possibilities are endless and its well worth the money

I dont think anyone is trying to talk crap man, more like bring up an alternative that is tailor made for our cars where there is more information and support. E-manage is cool, but universal, my point was why go universal when there is something built specifically for your car. I have seen and played with an e-manage in a friends SRT4, its cool, but the owner will be scrapping the e-manage in favor of AEM as soon as it is out for that car, and wishes that SRTs had something like DSMlink for their cars. E-manage is great, but factor in the costs of all the extra harnesses and sensors you need to buy to take full advantage of it and the cost equals if not exceeds that of DSMlink.

you dont need to buy any of those extra harnesses (you can just use the spare wires contained in the harness with the e-manage, cause to wire everything up you only use about half of the wires in the harness), all you need to buy is the sensors, just FYI, and i completely understand where your coming from but i personally still think that the e-manage Ultimate is probably one of the most advanced tuning tools available short of full stand alone, and lots cheaper than one

So you have the Ultimate or the Old Blue model?

I have seen the blue model out there for under $300... thats AFC territory... I guess the question is... does a $300 emanage do more for you than an AFC?

did you just ask if a blue e-manage is better than an AFC? cause the answer would have to be YES OF COURSE, you can change the airflow adjustment on a WAY more detailed scale, along with being able to tune injector pulse width and duty cycle you are also able to tune ignition advance and retard (on a throttle position and rpm based table, just like airflow) it also auto compensates for larger injectors you just put in the stock size and the new size and it compensates, it has real time data display along with full datalogging capabilities, you can use the VTEC setting to engage anything you want at a certain rpm and load, like alcahol injection or watermist or something of that nature

So why do people go AFC instead of emanage (price is about the same)... is it ease of setup on the AFC, availability and just the fact that you would have more people using it and hence have more support from fellow DSMers?

thats what ive been saying this whole post, i dont get why people dont go with an e-manage instead of an AFC, it is harder to use because you need to have a laptop, but if you have access to a laptop the blue e-manage is head and shoulders above an AFC

I guess my next question is is how much more can you do with the Ultimate to justify spending twice the amount?

I am inclined towards the Blue e-manage and an e-01 as my boost controller... which I can also use to change settings on the e-manage without a laptop.

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I guess my next question is is how much more can you do with the Ultimate to justify spending twice the amount?

I am inclined towards the Blue e-manage and an e-01 as my boost controller... which I can also use to change settings on the e-manage without a laptop.

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Well I've had the blue and now have the ultimate, the bigest difference is that with the ultimate you can add and REMOVE fuel by controlling the injector meaning you can change fuel without changing airflow which in turn changes timing. you can also eliminate the MAF. I've got a wideband hooked-up to the ultimate using the target a/f map to auto-tune the car. So I say it's worth the extra $$$$

Does the emanage work on 1g's? How well does the target afr work? I know my buddies mega squirt targeting afr works well. How about seeing knock?