a frenchie said:

im lookin at some turbo kits on ebay n realizing how freakin cheap they are. id like to replace my stock turbo with a t3/4 or a evo III 16g. i jus kinda wondering if anyone has had any experience w/ these kits. do they work well? is it worth it? exc...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ecli...067263399QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DSM-...067223986QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-9...066495448QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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ZiggysDSM said:

stay away from ssautochrome ive seen some horor stories and how shitty they last

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travislaw said:

Its people like you that haven't used the equipment that need to stop talking crap. If you haven't used it personally or had a friend that you know well used it, don't talk about it. Because you've seen horror stories isn't good enough, most of those horror stories are from other who have "seen stories" and those saw stories. Most of SSAutoChromes bad rep is because of tons of hearsay. blah blah blah...QUOTE]


NO.

Do you really think everyone needs to experience everything first hand? Watching somebody else shoot themselves in the foot would be good enough reason for me to not do the same. How about this. I've seen someone literally burn their car down from using a cheap fuel fitting. Is that enough for me to not use a cheap fuel fitting yes... should it be enough for you to not use a cheap fuel fitting... well, I would say yes.

Who the eff would try to say that their bad rep is caused by "a story of a story of a story". SEARCH on this forum. there dozens and dozens of failed parts and nothing is done about them. Sure you want to save money, but you spend 450 on a "turbo kit" that is only worth about 30$ of scrap metal in a few weeks you just lost the difference between the "good" part and the crappy one.

Think about this. People like Magnus, Buschur, FP, RRE... .These are the people who have tried the products out in race situations. They've tested and spent thousands upon thousands of dollars to test/manfacture/create products that will last, and that they can put their name on. They've supported the DSM community for years, and are the only reason that you can make your car as fast as you can, as easily. OEMs like Mitsu, Garrett spend thousands upon thousands of dollars designing housings, wheels, bearings. There is a REASON for it.

Now insert effing rejects like "SS autochrome" which sell chinese one offs. They fail more often than not, they will NEVER make the power an equivelant part will because frankly their reverse engineering skills just aren't that good. They're made from extremely high carbon content metals which are weak as hell, especially at temperatures seen in a turbo/manifold. They also can't stand behind the product, because they know it is crap. Not only is the design crap, but the manufacturing process of building it is crap.

I understand that you want a part at a good price; however, spending money in the "ebay lottery" will easily net you more money lost than buying the GOOD part in the first place. Some people, like yourself, do manage to get a part that doesn't immediately break. But you have to ask yourself.. Will it last 5k miles? 10k? 50K? Will it work as well as the real part during those miles?

How about this. You go through the DSMtuners 1/4 time list, and DSMtimes and tell me which of those people use SS autochrome, or GT or any other "ebay" brand parts and have, in the end, spent less money than the people they're as fast as. If you can find more than 1, I'll give you 10$ over paypal.

(intercoolers are slightly different as they are quite simple and can typically make up for inefficiencies through larger cores. It is also the only part that I went "cheap" on. JRC backdoor FMIC)

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drivemusicnow said:

travislaw said:

Its people like you that haven't used the equipment that need to stop talking crap. If you haven't used it personally or had a friend that you know well used it, don't talk about it. Because you've seen horror stories isn't good enough, most of those horror stories are from other who have "seen stories" and those saw stories. Most of SSAutoChromes bad rep is because of tons of hearsay. blah blah blah...QUOTE]


Now insert effing rejects like "SS autochrome" which sell chinese one offs. They fail more often than not, they will NEVER make the power an equivelant part will because frankly their reverse engineering skills just aren't that good. They're made from extremely high carbon content metals which are weak as hell, especially at temperatures seen in a turbo/manifold. They also can't stand behind the product, because they know it is crap. Not only is the design crap, but the manufacturing process of building it is crap.

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Look, I am not saying they are wonderful, I did say it was hit or miss, so need for some super long explanation. I also stated that their customer service sucks. The turbo I bought from them ended up being a real Mitsubishi MHI Evo 3 16g. Not some cheap $30 piece of metal. I know some of their turbos suck. I am just saying most of the bad rap out their on SS autchrome is hearsay and it is hearsay from their old turbos. They dropped the manufacturer of the old turbos because they know they suck. The only people that should be posting whether the product sucks or not are people that are actually using it, that's all I am saying. If that person had put an SS autchrome turbo on their car and blew up really fast, then you wouldn't hear word one from me about. I just think people should not do things out of hearsay, and it even says in the posting rules # 3, no "I've heard" comments. If I never knew what a bullet did, I would much rather hear from the person that shot themselves in the foot, than someone that might have seen it happen.

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