low budget? he's going to have to spend much more on exhaust, intake, ic piping, fuel pump, boost gauge, and anything else he might need. low budget= 14B, 190 fuel pump, and supporting mods. The manifold looks sweet

well yea, but i mean, instead of buying a big 16g for 400 or so, he can get all of that for 600, piping we can make, he has 3" exhaust and injectors are easy to get.. but do you think it is worth it, i read the guy on ebays feedback and everyone said they love it and its good bang for buck

I read a review on here (search for it). He said the turbo was literally GLUED together. The manifold will probably go in a month, and the BOV probably leaks like sinking ship. I wouldn't get it.

from a few threads that i've looked at XSpower is suppose to be

Complete junk. I just pulled an XS Power Turbo Kit off a civic. He had it on for a month and the manifold is now warped, the runners are horrible. The collector is complete crap.
The turbo, wow....

I would stay far away from this stuff, even if it's for the low budget baller. It'll cost you more in the long run. If you can't afford to correctly upgrade then you don't need to upgrade yet. Save up the money and do it right the first time.

diddy456 said:

well yea, but i mean, instead of buying a big 16g for 400 or so, he can get all of that for 600, piping we can make, he has 3" exhaust and injectors are easy to get.. but do you think it is worth it, i read the guy on ebays feedback and everyone said they love it and its good bang for buck

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Sorry but i've only heard bad about xs power too. keep in mind most the people that wrote the feedback on there when they recieved the turbo and not after they installed it and drove 1000 miles. I've written feedback like that and regretted it afterwards.
The tubular manifold is not needed so much (but for this T3 you do) and some people say your better off without one (-$300)
It's hard to beat a 16G's power and price, that's why everyone has one. Most people that don't have one just don't know, got something bigger, or they got a good deal on something else.

sry im new, i didnt know i could just search xspower i thought u had to know the thread name, but i have read and i will tell him to stay away from it, thing is i found a big 16g kit on ebay with a nice manifold like that one for about 550 and i wish i could find that now for him!, if anyone knows that link lemme know, again sorry for posting this again

You can't really just bolt on a new turbo and such. You need to get supporting mods first.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/tech.php
Refer to that link.

diddy456 said:

sry im new, i didnt know i could just search xspower i thought u had to know the thread name, but i have read and i will tell him to stay away from it, thing is i found a big 16g kit on ebay with a nice manifold like that one for about 550 and i wish i could find that now for him!, if anyone knows that link lemme know, again sorry for posting this again

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thats fine, I found out a week ago.
I stumbled upon the $550 16G with a nice manifold. The seller is ssautochrome and they have just as bad of reputation. Save yourself and don't get tubular headers or look at ones with tubular headers, you end up paying for them even if it looks like a deal.
Pay $500 or more for a 16G by itself from a know good seller, with a warrant is even better, or have him save up till he can.

guys please
whenever u see XS power. SS Autochrome. Apc, just RRRUUUUNNNNNNNN

i ve seen that kit with a big16g, look at it properly and u ll see xs power wrote on the turbo
those guys will do anything to sell and they really try with the dsm community
thing is most of the people in our community are smart enough not to buy that crap
and looks like those guys understood it so they really trying with those cheap kits, and putting name that we re used to like big16g
and please go look in some others ebay add, i mean i saw their dsm
and looked at the engine bay (in their picture that they posted)
the guys using an HKS blow off, not his bullshit, the guy s also using a regular manifold, not their bullshit,
so think about it, their stuff are not even on their cars !!
(hope this made sense)

talonproject said:

guys please
whenever u see XS power. SS Autochrome. Apc, just RRRUUUUNNNNNNNN

i ve seen that kit with a big16g, look at it properly and u ll see xs power wrote on the turbo
those guys will do anything to sell and they really try with the dsm community
thing is most of the people in our community are smart enough not to buy that crap
and looks like those guys understood it so they really trying with those cheap kits, and putting name that we re used to like big16g
and please go look in that ebay add
and look at the engine bay
the guys using an HKS blow off, not his bullshit, the guy s also using a regular manifold, not their bullshit,
so think about it, their stuff are not even on their cars !!

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nice!

too bad we couldn't get them banned from ebay or run them out of business, that shit is straight up stupid. At the least I hope those guys can't sleep at night knowing they ripped off so many people that don't know

oh man i remember seeing a thread where a guy posted their feedbacks
they were just insulting everybody like a kid will do
it was seriously crazy
i ll try to find it u won t believe it

should i tell him to get a b16g off ebay or just from a site, and if a site, which site, he has all the mods, besides fuel injectors which he is getting, so with a new b16g he will beable to boost alot, the only reason we were really looking at that kit was because of the front mount, does anybody know where to find a good front mount for 1g dont care if its with piping or not

thanks for the replys guys

diddy456 said:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DSM-...ewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQitemZ7991467098QQrdZ1

I am not planning on getting it as I alraedy have a better set up, I was just wondering what people think of this, a friend of mine with a low budget was looking at it and asked, so I thought I'd ask some pros.'

Thanks

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horrible.. run, scream, run faster, its just horrible

diddy456 said:

should i tell him to get a b16g off ebay or just from a site, and if a site, which site, he has all the mods, besides fuel injectors which he is getting, so with a new b16g he will beable to boost alot, the only reason we were really looking at that kit was because of the front mount, does anybody know where to find a good front mount for 1g dont care if its with piping or not

thanks for the replys guys

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I love Ebay, it's great only if you know exactly what your looking for and did your research. I'd say go for EBay first, give it a month of looking for a deal and if you can't find a realistic deal go for one of the companies that DSMTuners supports and links to. slowboys, etc.
advice:
don't buy from the bad companies listed; sometimes the sellers on ebay don't tell you who made it so ask if they know if they don't don't buy, don't buy a 16G with lettering other than TD05 on the compressor housing in most cases, try for a warrantied turbo, used turbos aren't as bad as you think (at least you know they work); in and out shaft play costs under $200 for a good shop to rebuild including kit; up and down shaft play is a no; exhaust housing cracks is a no; and any small damage on fins on the wheels will unbalance the turbo NOOOO
im out.. good luck

100% agree with what was said above
also ebay s awesome for act clutch, or springs, shocks, etc, stuff with known brand thatu get a good price
try to avoid those customs stuff....
anf for the intercooler, buy a spearco core or don t buy on ebay
unless it s really known
ps don t buy starion

Ya its a great deal, but like everyone else said its complete crap. I've seen pics of the turbo comp housing glued together obviously fell apart & where the welds on the exhaust manifold actually melted & the turbo fell off. Even the wg & bov look to be cheep imatations. Also if thats the correct pic it won't bolt up to a factory style O2 housing. Like the sayings go, if its too good to be true, it usually is & you get what you pay for.

Ebay is great if you do your research first & know the product your buying is the real thing & not some cheep knock off (which there is alot of out there)

ok thanks guy, he is just going to go with the b16g from thespeedfactor(or does anyone know a better site) and front mount, keep the stock manifold and bov for now