Cut Wires and unplugged connectors. What are they?

[bluegs03]

Hello first off i want to thank you for taking the time to read and help me i do appreciate it.

I recently bought a 1990 eclipse GSX. its got 141,000 miles and is as expected for a 17 year old car. I have a few questions about certain wires that are cut. But before i get to that i was searching the web and i found this amazing website where it has an entire 1g engine bay and you can click on different parts to tell you what it is. That would pretty much solve all of my issues so if anyone knows what i am talking about can you please link it. thanks!

The car doesnt start but it will turn over, it just doesnt catch and start all the way. The car is getting fuel and i know for a fact that its not getting spark. I am dreading testing compression and a compression tester is on its way. But i will come to that later.

ok so the cut wires. From what i can tell they seem to come from the alternator? (Not good) they are cut in two places at the very end of the wire and about half way to where they originate from. Can anyone tell me what they go to? Here are the pictures of the cut wires.

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Also the plug for the right fan (when facing the front of the car) is unplugged does this mean it wont work? Heres a pic its in the lower right of the pic its a purplish color.

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Also behind and to the left of the throttle body is a plug that isnt plugged into anything Any ideas?

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Finally there is a plug which i think goes to the windshield wipers (which were taken off the car for god knows why) but just to be sure heres a pic.

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Finally here is a pic of the whole engine bay in all of its dirty glory.

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Thank you so much for helping me! i really do appreciate it and all of your expertise. I look foreword to fixing the car up and getting it in running condition.

 

[bluegs03]

Found the website with the 1g engine bay after a bit of searching. It is really helping me but i would appreciate anyone helping me identify what these connectors are.

 

[jddelrosso]

The connector you think is for you wipers is actually located where the fuel pressure solenoid and evaporative emissions solenoid were located. It looks as if the vacuum removal was done, I would do a boost leak test to make sure it was done correctly and everything was capped off well. Im not sure what the plug behind the throttle body is, ill look tonight. The plug near the radiator was probably for your ac fan, though to me it looks hard wired, both bad and good, I would try to ge that back to stock personally. Oh and try to pop start it maybe?

 

[bluegs03]

thank you! i now know what to look for to replace it back to stock. On the websites ive visted its mainly said that the plug in the back right wasnt completely necessary so its not that plug thats causing the car not to start which is a good thing!

the fans are hard wired... hmmm ok i agree with you thats definatly good and bad, Im just worried about the physically cut wires because thats the main thing that scares me. Would the wire that he cut be used to keep the fans on all the time?

thanks for answering some of the questions! Hmm im use to club3g.com so i dont know how to add reputation but i will try!

 

[jddelrosso]

For the plug behind your throttle body, what is it connected to and I assume you did not see any other connections unconnected? I dont think that these would not allow the car to start unless most of them were unhooked. Is it not getting spark at all or on a few of the cyl? Have you yet taken a look at your coil pack?

 

[tqmx1]

The black plug behind the intake is for EGR flow. It is used on Calif. caes only. They made the harness for one fits all.

 

[Laysher91]

The plug behind your throttle body is the connector you have to ground to make timing/idle adjustments. It shouldn't be connected to anything but it should have a cap on it to prevent dirt from getting in there. I would at least tape it up. The plug by the brake master cylinder is for the emission solenoids. It appears they have been removed, and even the fuel pressure solenoid has been removed. That may give you some problems with start up, but if you're positive you're getting fuel it must be something else. Make sure it was done correctley, otherwise you'll have vac/boost leaks everywhere. I think there was an attempt to hardwire the fans, but its hard to tell from the pic. Try to return that to stock; the set up looks questionable. Also, your powering steering pump is unplugged. Its the little black, right angle connector. Don't you love other people's messes?

 

[bluegs03]

The plug behind your throttle body is the connector you have to ground to make timing/idle adjustments. It shouldn't be connected to anything but it should have a cap on it to prevent dirt from getting in there. I would at least tape it up. The plug by the brake master cylinder is for the emission solenoids. It appears they have been removed, and even the fuel pressure solenoid has been removed. That may give you some problems with start up, but if you're positive you're getting fuel it must be something else. Make sure it was done correctley, otherwise you'll have vac/boost leaks everywhere. I think there was an attempt to hardwire the fans, but its hard to tell from the pic. Try to return that to stock; the set up looks questionable. Also, your powering steering pump is unplugged. Its the little black, right angle connector. Don't you love other people's messes?

wow thanks! and i do love other peoples messes. This is going to be quite a project... i can already tell. You guys are giving me invaluable information at least now i know what to look for. I am thinking the cut wires were an attempt to hardwire the fans... it seems likely. Goodness so the car has no power steering, that will be fun to fix...

As for getting the car started its not that big of a deal i havent gone through all of the 3 steps. I am super busy until summer (college) and i have only had a chance to check for fuel. I know to check spark and compression and will be doing that after i have free time.

Since i will be fixing the car up and selling it im going to want it as close to stock as possible so in order to replace all of the solenoids im going to have to go to a junkyard correct? i will also browse websites that sell replacement parts but these are pretty specific so i dont know if they will have it.

(sigh) you get what you paid for. But i enjoy a challenge and will really enjoy showing you guys all of my hard work getting this car up and running and back to stock.

 

[jddelrosso]

Hey, from yuour last pic it also looks to me like you need to run some new waher fluid lines to the hood. Not sure if you noticed that.

 

[Laysher91]

If you plan on returning all the emissions to stock, you will need a lot more than the solenoids. It would be easiest to find someone on this site that just did the emissions removal and pick up everything cheap! You'll need the solenoids, all vacuum lines, egr valve (you probably still have it), and the charcoal canister. This will give you a good idea of what you're dealing with http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198327

 

[bluegs03]

Hey, from yuour last pic it also looks to me like you need to run some new waher fluid lines to the hood. Not sure if you noticed that.

no i didnt notice that but i am confused to what you are trying to tell me. are you saying i need water lines? Is this for the turbo? or windshield wipers( i dont have any) Im trying to think of everything that needs water and those are the only 2 things... if you could clarify that would be great.

 

[bluegs03]

If you plan on returning all the emissions to stock, you will need a lot more than the solenoids. It would be easiest to find someone on this site that just did the emissions removal and pick up everything cheap! You'll need the solenoids, all vacuum lines, egr valve (you probably still have it), and the charcoal canister. This will give you a good idea of what you're dealing with http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198327

wow! thank you so much thats a great idea! is there anyway to reward you for the info. Is there a reputation system and if so how can i add positively to your reputation? I will be browsing the for sale ads and see if anyone has one. Or ill put up a wanted thread! thanks a million you guys are saving me weeks maybe even months of figuring this out on my own.

 

[jddelrosso]

I did not see any wiper lines under the hood, like actually attached to the hood and nozzle, not sure if I can clarify more though.