starter/flywheel problems

[tobyparson]

Ok i was screwin around the other night and practicing my launches... thats always good to hear off the bat right....

So anyhow i dropped it at about4k just to see well i pulled out fine and kept going then... i stopped to drop my buddy off at his truck and when i went to pull out i cut the wheel all the way to the left and the car started to surge or lobe such as a 4X4 truck does in 4 wheel low... i assume its my axel and have gotten another one since... but when i went to start the car it sounded like the starter was turning before it hit the flywheel and made a horrible racket.

I went to our salvage yard and got another starter and installed it figured problem solved. but i was wrong it is still doing the loud noise and now the starter won't even engage it just spins and sounds like the flywheel is junk but when i look at the flywheel the teeth have minimal wear on them

as far as mods go i have a 2 G tranny, ACT 2600 clutch, and lightened flywheel.

Can anybody please help... i have a good bit of mechanical capabilities and i just can't seem to find my problem.

Thank you in advance and sorry this is so long
Toby

 

[Defiant]

Check your bell housing, block, and transmission bolts for breakage.

 

[JuiceGsTurbo024]

Hey whats up i am haven the same problem, i have went through two starters already? and today it went out on me again i have to push start my car? it spins but does not feel likes its grapping the flywheel ? and the tranny looks fine? and the car drives perfect after the car is on? after i push start it, i am going to try to replace the bolts and see what happens i am going to take of the starter today and take it back to kregans and see what they say? they are going to test the starter and i am sure the starter is going to test fine! if not i am goign to just get a new starter hopefully they dont trip since i just went in there yesterday and got the new starter! damn i wonder if its the shitttty starters at kregans, well what else could it be? i have tried everything and the starter is on tight, i hope its nothing major with my tranny, well any help is good thanks

Juice

 

[SuperSlowGST]

I have just went through two starters as well. From advance auto. Both solenoid housings came loose. I think the remans are crap as I had to go through two alternators as well. Keep it posted as to what works. I am going to try starter #3 and see what happens from there. Good luck

 

[92awddsm]

Well the surging an "lobing" with the wheel turned sounds like a broken center diff. I am not sure what the starter problem is but I would inspect the bell housing for cracks. When you were launching it, were you just dumping the clutch or slip/dump style? Dont just dump it because that tends to break things on an awd.

 

[JuiceGsTurbo024]

I just got a new starter yesterday and today in the morning my car does not want to start! damn some times i want to give up on my car but i love the boost! hahahah well this is what i broke it down to, it has to be the flywheel teeth, or somethign to do with my flywheel bec when i take the starters back to napa its testing fine and is passing there test, so the starter is turning and engaging! so its not grapping the flywheel, but why does the starter work for a day? and then stops working? right now i have to push start my car damn i feel like fred frenstone! hahah naw but any tips or places i can look, just let me know! i think i am going to give my car a break and fix everything! all at once! so no more sh*&t goes wrong! hahahah well thanks for any help late


Juice

 

[SuperSlowGST]

A starter will only last two days so it seems that I have the same problem. If there is any help out there PLEASE HELP!!!!

 

[JuiceGsTurbo024]

I dont know what it could be i put up another post and still nothing! they tell me it could be the flywheel did you check your flywheel for any damage? does your car start when you push start it? and does it make any sound when you try to start the car up? lets see if we can figure this out since no one is giving us any help! tell me everything your doing! i am goign to try to change the bolts tommorow maybe the bolts went bad or something! and are you grounding the starter? and check to see the power wire is free and is rust free and not old, i read on a thread and it said that the power cord is someimtes the most frequent problem with starter issues! so check everything and when you take of the starter does it test PASS?? well good luck and damn i need to get my car back! laters!

good luck again

Juice

 

[SuperSlowGST]

My fly wheel should be fine. Just put in a clutch in about 8 months ago and had flywheel resurfaced. Mechanic said everything was fine. I checked again just to be sure. My bolts are fine also. Factory bolts in great shape. The first starter I took off was a genuine MITS part. I have checked voltage on the main power wire several times and it seems to be fine every time I check it. I do however suspect the smaller wire with the female connector. It seems to be loose at times but I have check the voltage on this as well. OK this time. I took the second starter off and the solenoid housing where the electrical fittings are and it was busted all the way loose. 1st starter form advance auto tested good but it only lasted two days and still tested good after I took it back. 2nd one busted as said above. Third one is on now and working for now. The most I have been able to get out of one of these starters is 2 days so far. I am on day two on #3 but I have not had the chance to drive my car much. I will keep you posted. and yes my car would start when i would push it off. I still don't think the problem lies in the starter. I think it is elsewhere.

 

[JuiceGsTurbo024]

I agree the starters are fine for both of us! does it make a nasty noise when you start your car? or does the car start normal! bec when i try to start my car it sounds like it wants to spin but its not engaging out? the teeth are suppose to kick out and start the flywheel but its not starting i wonder what it could be i tried searching but nothing i am going to take i took it to my mach but he was not there and since then i have been super busy? so your car is working? i wonder for how long the starter will hold? well good luck and let me know when it goes out we gotta fix this sh*t hahah well thanks and good luck

Juice

 

[SuperSlowGST]

The old starter the original did make an awful noise but none of the others have made it. I am on my 5th day and about 300 miles on the new starter and all is well for now. KNOCK ON WOOD!! I still think there is some other problem. I have this crazy static in my radio now. It was not there before. I do not feel comfortable with the situation yet. The starter is engaging fine and sounds great. I have a theory on the starter. I tightened the main power wire after the starter was mounted. I think the starter problems could be my fault overtightening that nut and weaking the plastic housing that goes into the solenoid. This time I tightened the nut before I mounted the starter so the starter would roll when I got it tight enough. I thought this would prevent me from overtightening and causing this problem again if it was my fault. I am a mechanic at my workplace so I work with tools and bolts all the time so I don't think I overtightened them but hey I could have screwed up. A car is not an industrial machine. I am just about sure I have an electrical problem somewhere. The static in the radio is not like ground noise static in the radio. I love driving my car so I hate to get rid of it. It is so sweet and quick. I have one of the faster cars in town on the street when it's running. I just don't know if I can part with it. I just picked up a greddy front mount Saturday and want this problem fixed before I attempt to install this. My main question to you is do you have any other signs that might point to an electrical issue. We will get to the bottom of this. THanks for responding. I will continue to resolve this and keep you posted.

 

[SuperSlowGST]

I forgot to add. How tight did you tighten the power wire to the solenoid. I think there might be little tolerance on this torque.

 

[JuiceGsTurbo024]

Hey whats up thanks for the info! its great when ppl work together to solve a problem! but to start off? it sounds like you do have an electric problem? i dont think i am getting any electric problems my car runs fine all the time? and i have a new battary and i have a new alternator, and everything on the battary terminals are tight and not old and corroded and everything is working fine? but i was thinking if my motor mounts could case the flywheel to move bec i have really bad motor mounts! but i dont think it would be that! and the bolts are fine and the power wire is on tight enough not extremely tight but just enough so it dont move and come loose, the only thing wrong right now is my groud wire on the starter the little black clip that is on the ground wire broke, but the wire does not come off and when my new starter when i installed i rapped it with wiring tape just to make sure it would not come of or loose, and everything is pretty standard? alrite here is a question for you, when you bolt up the starter? when looking over the top of the engine bay? next to the battery and before the intake manifold? there is teh tranny tranfer case that hold the starter right! now does your starter come up flush? with the tranny case? do you know what i mean? on top of the starter!! sweet i found some pics to explain my self more! the first pic is what i am talking about, and 2nd pic is also aorund the area where my starter does not come all the way up and but the bolts line everything up? so i dont see why the starter would not be flush? see on the 3rd pic i can see the the starter seems to go all the way flush with the transfer case? right now i am st school in the bay area and wont be in the valley until Friday so friday when i get home i am going to mess with my car take off starter and inspect everyone one more time! and make sure i am not doing somethign wrong but this will be my 6th or 7th time installing a starter so i am sure i am not doing anything wrong? hope its nothing major well let me know how your starter is bolted on? if its flush on top? i am going to edit the pic right now so i can explain my self throughly well thanks again and hope your car runs good!!

Juice