1G 92 Eclipse Non Turbo Tranny Problem

[EclipseRick]

I have a 92 Eclipse Non Turbo - I have changed the trans 4x. Now the one we have now was working great until about 3 weeks ago. I stopped at a light and now the car will not go into gear. Clutch pedal and slave cylinder is working fine. I took the slave cylinder off the car.

I can move the fork around by hand pretty easy. Is it supposed to be this way? I can slide the fork back and forth and it doesn't have any tension on it. Do I have to take the whole trans apart again? I can see the fork pulling the throw out bearing back and forth when I move it with my hand.

Any IDEAS?

 

[my_gst95]

Turn the car off and see if you can get it into gear that way. If it does, then its not the tranny (which im sure it isn't). The clutch fork may not be getting enough throw. Try adjusting the clutch pedal, try additional clutch system bleeding, and also try extending your slave cylinder pushrod. If it's still the same, then you may have to inspect your pressure plate and throwout bearing.

my_gst95

 

[realhp=turbo]

It sounds more like your clutch is completely done. Also a word of wisdom from another dsmer with tranny problems, 2.8 QTs! These trannys hold only 2.8qts not a drop more. If you fill the tranny while the front of the car is in the air then you will not get an acurate level check. If you put too much fluid in it increases the case pressure. I litteraly blew out my final drive because of that.

 

[EclipseRick]

Turn the car off and see if you can get it into gear that way. If it does, then its not the tranny (which im sure it isn't). The clutch fork may not be getting enough throw. Try adjusting the clutch pedal, try additional clutch system bleeding, and also try extending your slave cylinder pushrod. If it's still the same, then you may have to inspect your pressure plate and throwout bearing.

my_gst95

The tranny goes into gear with the car off. But the fork is not going to go any further. It just slaps back and forth with the car off. I started to tear it down today. Hate to put another clutch in this thing. I am gonna sell it as soon as I get it running again. Too bad Nice car. Bought my kid a new one so I don't need it anymore. Thanks for your help

 

[EclipseRick]

It sounds more like your clutch is completely done. Also a word of wisdom from another dsmer with tranny problems, 2.8 QTs! These trannys hold only 2.8qts not a drop more. If you fill the tranny while the front of the car is in the air then you will not get an acurate level check. If you put too much fluid in it increases the case pressure. I litteraly blew out my final drive because of that.

Yeah I drained the fluid. Didn't even get a half pint out of it. The trans is probablly done for. Time to go to the junkyard again. This bites.

 

[EclipseRick]

My kid has changed the trans in his 92 Eclipse (NonTurbo) I drove the car about 200 miles since he is out of town. Now it won't shift. It will shift with the engine off but nothing with engine on. Just grinds the gears.

The clutch pedal is okay and working properly, and so is the slave cylinder. I am getting ready to take it apart if I can get a half warm weekend. I played with the clutch fork that connects to the slave cylinder and it moved back and forth with no resistance. It goes from one side the the other very easily while the car is off. I can see the bearing moving back and forth also.

Anyone have any idea's before I rip this thing apart? I wanna get this thing running and sell it or trade it. Its too small for me and I bought him another car.

 

[falcone4g63]

try adjusting the clutch pedal. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/njdsm2/clutch.html

 

[92tealTSI]

sounds to me like the clutch plate is on backwards.

 

[ryanman]

sounds to me like the clutch plate is on backwards.

WTF? You can't install the pressure plate or the disk backwards. WTF are you trying to say?




Try adjusting the clutch pedal.

 

[pneumo]

Take a look at where the clutch fork comes out of the bellhousing. It should be right in the center. If it's offset to the passengers side, then you need to add a washer under the pivot ball. Usually a standard lockwasher 3mm thick will do the trick.

 

[OWGTI]

Make sure the bolts that hold the transmission to the engine are tight. I have seen them back off and then your clutch wont work right.

Later
Arnie

 

[Spln_Hrd]

I don't think a backwards pressure plate would even allow you to shift for 200 miles, . its cool, but try to talk about something you are knowledgable of so you don't get flamed. but the pressure plate has a friction surface just like the flywheel and its only on one side. Plus I think the springs would be smacking the disc and really make it hard to put the bolts in.

yeah the problem defenatly sounds like the clutch is not disengaging.

 

[EclipseRick]

I was wondering, wIth the engine off and the slave cylinder off the trans. Should the fork slap back and forth with no resistance? I can see the bearing moving on the shaft when I push it back and forth. I can push the fork with very little resistance if any, back and forth.

I was gonna drop the trans, but I thought I would ask members and see what answers I get before I drop it. By the way: Its a 92 Eclipse Non turbo

 

[DSMRevolution]

I was wondering, wIth the engine off and the slave cylinder off the trans. Should the fork slap back and forth with no resistance? I can see the bearing moving on the shaft when I push it back and forth. I can push the fork with very little resistance if any, back and forth.

The bearing and fork moving back and forth with the slave cylinder off is a GOOD thing. It should travel it's range of movement with little or no resistance. No worry.