Cry O2 any one

[noyorol_1]

I just heard about cry o2.I was just wondering if it is any safer then nos.for those who do not know what cry o2 is it is co2 that packs a punch.if anyone has it or knows anything about it let me know

 

[Colossus]

Cry as in Cryogenic o2? If so, it'd be great to really freeze over your intercooler with. Most computer overclockers use liquid nitrogen and cryogenic o2 to freeze their processors to subzero temps. I wouldnt inject it in my intake though....it's not widely enough used for me to trust, personally. But hey, I'd freeze some parts with it before launching for sure. Just gotta remember that constantly putting a 400+ degree part into sub zero temperatures really quickly, then letting it reheat, and doing that over and over again can cause the part to crack from the extreme rapid compression and expansion.

 

[noyorol_1]

i haveread from some magizen that it is better and saferr.i see were you are soming from.i was just thinking about getting the intercooler kit for it but have not seen anyone use it.so i might give it a try

 

[Colossus]

It wouldnt be a first for o2, but I havent heard of "cryogenic" o2 used..but Im farily new to the idea, so I'm sure someone might of already done it. Either way, go for it. It definitly is cheaper, as it takes $30 to refill a nitrous bottle here. So, I try to spare my bottle, and when it's empty...it doesn't get refilled for a while. Just for street fun and a refill for the track. Bottles don't last long either. But Freezing over the intercooler should help considerably seeing that NX does that already with nitrous...but I'd expect colder temperatures from cryogenic O2. I still wouldn't inject it in my engine though....

 

[sophat34]

if you sprayed it in like you do with nitrous you would blow things up. the nitrogen in the nitrous acts a a buffer to slow the burning of the oxygen. it takes some serious heat and pressure to split it apart from the oxygen, and then the oxygen accelerates the combustion. with nitrous u retard your timing a little and the nitrogen helps slow down the burn. just imagin what could happen with out that buffer there.

 

[Colossus]

Good explanation

 

[noyorol_1]

i am going to get the intercooler kit for it.the site i am getting it from says it is alot safer then nos.but i dont know.i will let everyone know when i get it if it is worth it

 

[Colossus]

Yeah I'd only use it for an intercooler. Don't believe much an uncredited site says though.

 

[Addict]

Do you guys even know what the kit does?

Its not O2(oxygen), its CO2 (carbon dioxide). It doesn't get injected into the intake. Its sprayed on the intercooler(like the NX N-Tercooler kit).

http://www.designengineering.com/cryo2_intercooler_sprayer.html

 

[Colossus]

If you read properly you'd see we'd shifted topics. He said don't spray co2 into the intake cool guy. Nobody ever said it wasn't safe to spray co2 on the IC. Of course it is. It's cheaper than anything. It's recommended. So yes, I think we do know what it does. All I said was don't believe much of what an uncredited site has to say. Research. Yes, it's safe. But the power benefits...Research.

 

[Addict]

Originally posted by Colossus
Cry as in Cryogenic o2? If so, it'd be great to really freeze over your intercooler with. Most computer overclockers use liquid nitrogen and cryogenic o2 to freeze their processors to subzero temps. I wouldnt inject it in my intake though....it's not widely enough used for me to trust, personally.

Originally posted by Colossus
It wouldnt be a first for o2, but I havent heard of "cryogenic" o2 used..but Im farily new to the idea, so I'm sure someone might of already done it.
...
But Freezing over the intercooler should help considerably seeing that NX does that already with nitrous...but I'd expect colder temperatures from cryogenic O2. I still wouldn't inject it in my engine though....

Originally posted by sophat34
if you sprayed it in like you do with nitrous you would blow things up. the nitrogen in the nitrous acts a a buffer to slow the burning of the oxygen. it takes some serious heat and pressure to split it apart from the oxygen, and then the oxygen accelerates the combustion. with nitrous u retard your timing a little and the nitrogen helps slow down the burn. just imagin what could happen with out that buffer there.

Originally posted by Colossus
If you read properly you'd see we'd shifted topics. He said don't spray co2 into the intake cool guy. Nobody ever said it wasn't safe to spray co2 on the IC. Of course it is. It's cheaper than anything. It's recommended. So yes, I think we do know what it does. All I said was don't believe much of what an uncredited site has to say. Research. Yes, it's safe. But the power benefits...Research.

No you said o2 (cryogenic o2 )which lead me to believe that you had no idea what he was talking about. Your first post mentions spraying it into the intake as well as your second post.

Then sophat34 went on a ramble for no reason. He's asking about the CryO2 system, not about spraying O2 into your intake.

I'm not trying to be a dick, just trying to prevent misinformation.

 

[Colossus]

Well thank you for pointing it out. It was a missunderstanding on my half then.

 

[Dark_Racer]

From what i've seen on the Nitrious forum, Colossus knows what he'z talking about when it comes to Nitrious. Almost as much as me................. *cough* But anywayz the Cry02 system consists of basicly everything a nitrious kit does. Except the input/ouput of the co2 is different

http://www.jscspeed.com/wrx/cooling/dei_cry02.htm

Kit includes

Includes:
5 pound Co² tank
Cryogenic solenoid valve
All necessary fittings
14 ft. stainless steel hose
Full wide open switch
Arming switch Wiring kit.

And to back up Colossus..

DEI Cryogenic Air Intake
Installs in minutes and provides a colder, denser intake charge ideal for forced induction or normally aspirated engines -- has shown a 35% reduction in intake temperatures. Choose your intake piping's outer diameter below.


That site shows everything the Cry02 has to offer. I have a friend who runs it, and likes it. Its up to you witch kind of cold spray you want to sport, Nitrious or Co2, its all cold to me. Only Cry02 is alot cheaper

 

[Addict]

Originally posted by Dark_Racer
From what i've seen on the Nitrious forum, Colossus knows what he'z talking about when it comes to Nitrious. Almost as much as me................. *cough* But anywayz the Cry02 system consists of basicly everything a nitrious kit does. Except the input/ouput of the co2 is different

http://www.jscspeed.com/wrx/cooling/dei_cry02.htm

Kit includes

Includes:
5 pound Co² tank
Cryogenic solenoid valve
All necessary fittings
14 ft. stainless steel hose
Full wide open switch
Arming switch Wiring kit.

Not cocky are you?
The input/output are different? It has the method that the NX N-Tercooler kit does except that it uses CO2 instead.

And to back up Colossus..

DEI Cryogenic Air Intake
Installs in minutes and provides a colder, denser intake charge ideal for forced induction or normally aspirated engines -- has shown a 35% reduction in intake temperatures. Choose your intake piping's outer diameter below.

How does that back him up? If you read his posts you'd realize he was talking about spraying 'cryogenic o2' into the intake. That part you listed is a wrap. It chills the intake tube. Same concept and their intercooler sprayer. So I don't see how that backs him up.

Regardless, noyorol_1, you should look into IntercoolerTechniques. It would be a much more affordable version of what you're looking for(intercooler sprayer). www.intercoolertechniques.com It uses CO2 like the CryO2 kit.

 

[noyorol_1]

I got the intercooler kit it only cost close to 200 dollars.I have not installed it yet.I had always planned to spray it in to my intercooler.I know most you N/T guys have a NOS kit either direct port or in your intake.Anyways I got it but have not putted it in yet.I was just hopeing someone else had had it so they could give me some feedbck on it.Well there is a first for everything

 

[noyorol_1]

Forgot to ask this will i be able to use a nitrous gauge wtiht the cry o2

 

[Dark_Racer]

Bah! The input/output of Cry02 is alot different, because they make more than the NX intercooler style method of Cryo2. And yeah I didn't think colosses ment srapying into the intake. I thought he ment just using it to chill the intake. Oh well, my bad. And I'm not sure if the Nitrious gauge will work just for the fact that the bottles may differ from the psi ranges that the nitrious bottles use. And no Im not cocky addict I still have alot to learn

 

[tbird]

I think you guys are misunderstanding the whole cryo2 concept, if you inject it your engine will die, why? It's not nitrogen it's carbon dioxid the opposite of oxygen which your engine needs to produce an explosion, cryo2 is for external use only, like spraying the ic or running through fuel block to cool fuel, it's like a paintball gun tank, they get cold when you circulate the o2.

 

[Addict]

Originally posted by tbird
I think you guys are misunderstanding the whole cryo2 concept, if you inject it your engine will die, why? It's not nitrogen it's carbon dioxid the opposite of oxygen which your engine needs to produce an explosion, cryo2 is for external use only, like spraying the ic or running through fuel block to cool fuel, it's like a paintball gun tank, they get cold when you circulate the o2.

I believe that was already covered.....

Originally posted by Addict
Do you guys even know what the kit does?

Its not O2(oxygen), its CO2 (carbon dioxide). It doesn't get injected into the intake. Its sprayed on the intercooler(like the NX N-Tercooler kit).

http://www.designengineering.com/cryo2_intercooler_sprayer.html

 

[Colossus]

Yeah...o2 is for chilling external area's only. That's why I advised not spraying it directly earlier.

As for the gauge, I'm not to sure. I'd assume yes if the connection sizes and such are the same as a nitrous line. All the gauge does it measure pressure of air....so, I'd assume it'd measure the pressure of o2 just as it would n2o.

Thank you for the comment dark, I try, even though I've neglected to post on here much lately I'll try to do a bit better

 

[Livid]

I currently have Cryo2 installed.. I think some of you are misunderstanding its usage. It is not sprayed directly into the air intake or any other part of the engine. C02 harms engines, plain and simple. If you are installing the air intake for the cryo2 theres an attachment that hooks into the intake, theres a small bulb shaped object placed inside of the attachment (very aerodynamic). The C02 is circulated through the bulb and it is cooled to -200F .. The air is chilled as it passes by the bulb. No co2 enteres the intake.

 

[Addict]

Holy back from the dead Batman....

 

[Livid]

oops year and half.. didnt read the timestamp when i posted