GSR CRX VS GSt

[StarDiamond]

Who will win the battle me and my buddy want to race. He just swapped in a gsr into his crx and he wants to race me. I only have simple mods nothing big but he thinks i can take him. What do you guys think?

 

[noz]

you will loose pretty bad if you are stock.
i raced a zc sohc crx and only beat him by a car or a little over.
i raced a 91 sohc si hatch with basics and he was right next to me almost throught out all gears.
you can beat a crx but not a crx b18c swap.

even with simple mods im pretty sure you will loose if he knows how to drive because their cars are very light compared to ours.

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by noz
you will loose pretty bad if you are stock.
i raced a zc sohc crx and only beat him by a car or a little over.
i raced a 91 sohc si hatch with basics and he was right next to me almost throught out all gears.
you can beat a crx but not a crx b18c swap.

even with simple mods im pretty sure you will loose if he knows how to drive because their cars are very light compared to ours.

If you lost to a CRX SOHC Si you must really suck at driving .... I walked one in my 118 hp 5-speed Probe SE . I can only imagine what I would do to one in my GST.

 

[StarDiamond]

IDK i think it will be close once the damn snow clears here we are going line them up and see how it goes.

 

[clownface]

ive never raced a swaped CRX but i did beat one i dont think it was swapped thought, it was ugly, i had him a bunch of car lengths. Ive heard a CRX with a B18 does a 14 in the 1/4

 

[StarDiamond]

my friends bro has a crx wit a b16 in it and alot of mods he went down to the strip and only ran 14.6 w/ slicks.

 

[noz]

Originally posted by fireredGST
If you lost to a CRX SOHC Si you must really suck at driving .... I walked one in my 118 hp 5-speed Probe SE . I can only imagine what I would do to one in my GST.

i lost? dude you can't read.....
im stock, they are all basics.
maybe you're the one who raced someone who sucks at driving........


i still believe you will get rape by the b18c crx.

 

[noz]

crx weighs a good 800lb lighter than ours.
every 100lbs lost in a car = .1sec faster in the 1/4mile

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by noz
i lost? dude you can't read.....
im stock, they are all basics.
maybe you're the one who raced someone who sucks at driving........


i still believe you will get rape by the b18c crx.

How cant I drive ? your the one barely able to put a car lenght on a SOHC CRX( My I/E 118hp Probe put multiple lenghts on the same car you raced)....Your an embrassment to all DSM owners.... Learn to drive your car or sell it ..... :thumbdown



1/4 Times for CRX Si


8.7 seconds to 60 mph .....16.5 on the 1/4 , unless that CRX has a swap it isn't gonna even be close to a stock GST.....LEARN TO DRIVE

 

[drewgray]

Originally posted by noz
crx weighs a good 800lb lighter than ours.

Largest understatement of the week goes to....

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

for a gst yes they wiegh 800 pounds lighter...with light mods to your car ie intake exhast mbc and a few others vs a STOCK gsr crx will be close if hes got mods then itll be much harder to beat him. with a type r motor and a crx youll be at LOW 14s maybe high 13s. so do the math.
Andrew

 

[drewgray]

Originally posted by DSMeclipse4G63
for a gst yes they wiegh 800 pounds lighter...

curb weight for 2g GST = (lightest) 2921lbs
curb weight for 1988 CRX HF = 1819lbs
2921-1819 = 1102 lbs

 

[noz]

Originally posted by fireredGST
How cant I drive ? your the one barely able to put a car lenght on a SOHC CRX( My I/E 118hp Probe put multiple lenghts on the same car you raced)....Your an embrassment to all DSM owners.... Learn to drive your car or sell it ..... :thumbdown



1/4 Times for CRX Si


8.7 seconds to 60 mph .....16.5 on the 1/4 , unless that CRX has a swap it isn't gonna even be close to a stock GST.....LEARN TO DRIVE

I really thinkyou need to go out and race more........
i said the guy you raced can't drive, not you, damn your such a moron.
im ####ing running low 15's for a stock GSTspyder so it aint me.

just go race the crx swap gsr and tell us the results. all i'm saying is that with equal drivers and nothing wrong with the swap car or yours, his will rape you if he has traction.

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

Do the math....

http://www.autotrader.com/research/compare/index.jtmpl?restype=used

800 pounds for a TURBO talon fwd vs. BASE model crx.
Andrew

 

[wabdlninja]

A GSR crx is going to do alot better then mid 14's. More like high 13's.

 

[daddyrich1227]

A buddy of mine has a gsr with comptech header and exhaust and cai. you can check my mods. he also has cf hood and lots of suspension stuff. we are almost even. i beat him 3 out of 4 times but it is always close. i'm not gonna say i'm the best driver or even a good one. but he is about the same as me and it is always close.

 

[drewgray]

Originally posted by drewgray
curb weight for 2g GST = (lightest) 2921lbs
curb weight for 1988 CRX HF = 1819lbs
2921-1819 = 1102 lbs

Do the math....

isn't this math?
and on the site you posted the curb weight for a 95 talon tsi fwd is 2955lbs so i guess we can ad 34 lbs to the difference
here you can see the curb weight for a 1988 CRX HF (lightest of crx's)
http://www.teamsdxracing.com/specs.htm

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by noz
I really thinkyou need to go out and race more........
i said the guy you raced can't drive, not you, damn your such a moron.
im ####ing running low 15's for a stock GSTspyder so it aint me.

just go race the crx swap gsr and tell us the results. all i'm saying is that with equal drivers and nothing wrong with the swap car or yours, his will rape you if he has traction.

I was talking about the SOHC CRX , not the GSR swapped CRX you ####ing bi***, if you read my posts you would see I keep comenting on the fact you say you had a hard time with a SOHC CRX .... I catch 8-9 races a day , everyday ......and can drive my GST alot better than you (if you are barely pulling a SOHC CRX).

 

[noz]

Originally posted by fireredGST
I was talking about the SOHC CRX , not the GSR swapped CRX you ####ing bi***, if you read my posts you would see I keep comenting on the fact you say you had a hard time with a SOHC CRX .... I catch 8-9 races a day , everyday ......and can drive my GST alot better than you (if you are barely pulling a SOHC CRX).

did you fawking forget i am stock and drive a spyder.
get your facts straight.
plus sohc crx and civic hb can hit low 15s with basics.
and im pretty sure i can rape them if i add mods/so can you.
damn your a freakin idiot

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by noz
did you fawking forget i am stock and drive a spyder.
get your facts straight.
plus sohc crx and civic hb can hit low 15s with basics.
and im pretty sure i can rape them if i add mods/so can you.
damn your a freakin idiot

Explain to me how a car that stock runs a 16.7 1/4 can run low 15s with a few bolt ons ? My boy with a Civic Hatch with an SI engine with I/E/H only runs 16.1 and runs 15.5 with nitrous..... Wow your a ####ing moron that can't drive .... Guess what....You should actually sell your DSM to somebody that deserves it .....Then go buy a SOHC CRX for yourself since you like them so much you little ###et bi***....

 

[clownface]

you all shoud just meet up and fight it to the death, with swords

 

[Larry L]

Originally posted by fireredGST
How cant I drive ? your the one barely able to put a car lenght on a SOHC CRX( My I/E 118hp Probe put multiple lenghts on the same car you raced)....Your an embrassment to all DSM owners.... Learn to drive your car or sell it ..... :thumbdown



1/4 Times for CRX Si


8.7 seconds to 60 mph .....16.5 on the 1/4 , unless that CRX has a swap it isn't gonna even be close to a stock GST.....LEARN TO DRIVE

Yeah you should kill a stock SOHC CRX...FireredGST CHILL! Everyone knows that stock GS-T's in healthy condition have major traction problems, then after 5500 rps there is nothing left...So if the CRX got a really good launch it could probably happen.

BTW The GSR motor is a B18C1 not a JDM B18C Type R... Big difference in power. Now if he was AWD It would be a whole new story...Until the CRX reaches 5500 RPM's Then I hope you have a BIG lead because he is comming for you in a hurry...

Do the free mods on RRE...BOV return hose mod, BCS restrictor removal, And buy a high flow air filter....Less than $100.00 and Even a FWD will have a better chance.

P.S. Shift at around 6K With the BCS restrictor removed you can boost between 15-16psi up from 14psi on the stock T25...And by 6K your boost will prolly fall off back to 14psi. Then when you shift you'll fall back down to around 4K and back into full boost.. Good luck.

 

[fireredGST]

Originally posted by Larry L
Yeah you should kill a stock SOHC CRX...FireredGST CHILL! Everyone knows that stock GS-T's in healthy condition have major traction problems, then after 5500 rps there is nothing left...So if the CRX got a really good launch it could probably happen.

BTW The GSR motor is a B18C1 not a JDM B18C Type R... Big difference in power. Now if he was AWD It would be a whole new story...Until the CRX reaches 5500 RPM's Then I hope you have a BIG lead because he is comming for you in a hurry...

Do the free mods on RRE...BOV return hose mod, BCS restrictor removal, And buy a high flow air filter....Less than $100.00 and Even a FWD will have a better chance.

P.S. Shift at around 6K With the BCS restrictor removed you can boost between 15-16psi up from 14psi on the stock T25...And by 6K your boost will prolly fall off back to 14psi. Then when you shift you'll fall back down to around 4K and back into full boost.. Good luck.

I never said that a STOCK GST can beat a B18 Swapped CRX , But a SOHC CRX with all the bolt ons isn't going to pull on a GST, They have less than 140hp....no way in hell even if you lose boost will the CRX Si SOHC pull on you. And while the FWD's do lose traction we make up for it in the top end ....

 

[Nighthawk01]

Originally posted by noz
you will loose pretty bad if you are stock.
i raced a zc sohc crx and only beat him by a car or a little over.
i raced a 91 sohc si hatch with basics and he was right next to me almost throught out all gears.
you can beat a crx but not a crx b18c swap.

even with simple mods im pretty sure you will loose if he knows how to drive because their cars are very light compared to ours.

that sohc hatch weights in at 2400 pounds stock, only 300 pounds less then our fwd turbo cars,, and consitering our cars stock are pushing 190+hp, compared to 125 for the si, and over 200 pounds of tq, which is double that (103) of an si,, nd all at the same rpm range (5000)
i dont see why he wouldnt have a chance,, my buddy has an si hatch, im going to race him, he has an exsaust,,intake ect. im pretty much stock,, and i know how to drive,, but im pretty sure i will take him.

 

[Larry L]

True...When I was stock I beat a 98 GS-R twice in a row. The only way I could launch the T25 was to tap clutch to get traction...Now, With the 16G I do it a bit less, but still have ability to smoke all of first if I'm not careful.

Stock the GS-T puts BTW 160-170 horsepower to the wheels. The stock GS-R motor put down right around 147 whp. This is of course stock, GS-T's Easily make over 200WHP with just bolt ons such as Intake,
2 1/2 exaust, Downpipe, and 2 1/2 off road pipe. While the GS-R motor with Intake, Haders, and Exaust only puts down 165-170 whp...So put this in a 2200 lb CRX and the race will be close. Especially if they have a V-AFC and can change thier point of VTEC engagement. IMO it is only after 5500 RPM's that the CRX has a chance.....

Some may find this weird...But try a good condition 14B. The swap is easy to do and they can be had for around $150.00 online or in a wrecking yard...All that is needed is a 190lpm fuel pump, and Tweaker Hacker Kit from Roadraceengineering,com($190.00) Your bottom end will not bet as dramatic but you can pull 16psi to redline...No problem. And your stock intercooler and injectors can handle it up to 16 psi. Good luck