Spyder build recommendations

[slvrspdr99]

I have a 99 spyder 2.4. I am looking to build the hybrid with the 63 head and awd swap. Goal is to be in the 300 to 350 hp range. I'm shooting for a sleeper dd and plan to start in the spring.

 

[Cdc1221]

And the point of this thread is??? You know we have a build section for this right?

 

[slvrspdr99]

If I could post there I would

 

[Cdc1221]

My apologies for being a dick. For your goals, find a running, beat up awd car, and swap everything over. A 64 hybrid is overkill for less than 400 HP. And its far easier/cheaper to swap over than it is to buy everything new and figure out how to use it. I'm in the process of that now. Using my gst as a donor car for my spyder

 

[slvrspdr99]

It's ok we all have those days. Pulling from a gsx is plan but like flywheel/ clutch combos, since its already gonna be apart any head work. Stuff that I would need extra over stock. I like to do things once do it right type of a deal. And gonna be looking around for another 64 block so I can work on it and build at the same time.

 

[Cdc1221]

To be honest that's something you really just need to spend some time reading on. There are a hundred different ways you could go. Like me. I've got three different turbos at home and still don't know which one I want to run. That's really just too broad a spectrum to answer in a post or three

 

[slvrspdr99]

I gotcha it's just do I go and get the motor built with rods piston the whole 9 yards or not. I mean no need for crazy boost but not run low like 6lbs on stock internals

 

[Joethefallen23]

My apologies for being a dick. For your goals, find a running, beat up awd car, and swap everything over. A 64 hybrid is overkill for less than 400 HP. And its far easier/cheaper to swap over than it is to buy everything new and figure out how to use it. I'm in the process of that now. Using my gst as a donor car for my spyder

There's nothing overkill about a 64 hybrid. A 350whp long rod 2.1 build is overkill? Hell I'll take it any day. Better reliability than a 2.0 long rod and a bit of torque to boot? The rod ratio of a destroked long rod 64 is astounding.

Even of he didn't destroke, he can simply do a long rod 2.4 and have all the torque in the world with a MUCH better rod ratio than a 2.3. Overkill or not is simply an opinion. The fact is, the 64 hybrid swap can lead to a much more reliable engine when built correctly.

 

[Cdc1221]

True but money vs outcome. For his power goals vs longevity, a stock 6 bolt 4g63 would be plenty and he wouldn't have a whole lot in it. I do understand the positive aspect of a hybrid, but that's just my opinion

 

[slvrspdr99]

I know what I am trying to is going to have more potential than I'm probably going to use. I like my torque but I find no reason to rev out in the 8000 rpm+ range. Yes I know I'm exaggerating on the rpms but it's gonna have room to grow in the future if I so choose. It not like I'm trying to build a race car but once in awhile I can open it up and go

 

[Joethefallen23]

I know what I am trying to is going to have more potential than I'm probably going to use. I like my torque but I find no reason to rev out in the 8000 rpm+ range. Yes I know I'm exaggerating on the rpms but it's gonna have room to grow in the future if I so choose. It not like I'm trying to build a race car but once in awhile I can open it up and go

There's nothing wrong with that. I suggest you study this post thoroughly: Stroker, Long rod, Engine basics, Etc.

Will give you all the info in the world you need to make a proper decision on YOUR build. Besides, 6 bolt swaps are never end all be all and in my own personal opinion, grossly over done. The revised split thrust bearing in the late 7 bolt block is more than up to snuff.

 

[slvrspdr99]

I thought the 6 bolt vs 7 bolt was only on the 63 blocks not the 64 that I plan on using

 

[Joethefallen23]

I thought the 6 bolt vs 7 bolt was only on the 63 blocks not the 64 that I plan on using

There are earlier 6 bolt 46G4s but they are very few and far between(and not found on any eclipse at that). I'm pretty sure you can find them on Expos. Beyond that I can't remember. I just meant when people with later '97+ 7bolts swap a 6-bolt in. It's excessively done in my opinion. You'll be completely fine with your 64. It has the revised 3 piece thrust bearing. It's identical to the one found in the Evo blocks. You don't see much crankwalk issues over on EvoM now do you? Lol. Best of luck man.

 

[spyderdrifter]

Mines gonna be a 2.1 eventually with the 2.4 block and awd too. Like its been said ( and this is more agreeing than insisting you do it), read up on what combinations are out there. I wasn't sure in the beginning beyond wanting awd. But now, thanks to seeing what others have done and gone through, I know what direction I'm going in.