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07-21-2012, 10:45 PM
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From: Scotia, New York
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1995 Eclipse Gs-t oil pan gasket change
Just trying to clear this up.
The oil pan on the Gs-t is just simply removing the bolts and lowering the pan out of the car(after draining oil) correct?
Thank you.
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07-21-2012, 11:04 PM
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From: Towanda, Pennsylvania
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No, you have to remove the support beam as well. And may have to drop the exhaust from the downpipe.
Be lucky you don't have an Automatic 1G AWD. Support beam, exhaust, driver side axle, and some other stuff needs removed.
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07-21-2012, 11:07 PM
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DSM Wiseman

From: Columbia, Missouri
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Also to properly seal the pan you don't use a gasket you will want to use a bead of grey rtv to seal it.
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07-22-2012, 12:20 AM
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From: Black Forest, Colorado
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I've never had to drop the support beam. Just the exhaust, driver axle carrier bearing, and maybe some other random stuff. I second using only a bead of RTV.
Also keep track of the two shorter bolts that go into the timing cover.
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07-22-2012, 12:32 AM
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From: Missoula, Montana
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There are two specific bolts to keep track of, which the picture attached outlines. Otherwise the correct length bolts may be mixed up with longer ones and cause damage to the timing belt in a groove like way. The picture also recommends RTV to be used as already stated. The oil drain for the turbo which attaches to pan uses crush type washers under the bolt heads.
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Car's built on the inside, but not out :)
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07-22-2012, 08:13 AM
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From: Scotia, New York
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Originally Posted by fourgsixthree33
No, you have to remove the support beam as well. And may have to drop the exhaust from the downpipe.
Be lucky you don't have an Automatic 1G AWD. Support beam, exhaust, driver side axle, and some other stuff needs removed.
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I have a straight shot at the oil pan, which support beam are you speaking of?
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07-22-2012, 08:36 AM
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From: Hertfordshire, Europe
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He means the beam that the front engine mount is on, this you dont have to do but the down pipe is a must! I used the gasket jnztuning sent me which is cork and ive not had any leaks and i did that about a year ago now. Rtv is still ok to use, i just prefered a gasket as its better to get off again and seals 100% where you might miss a section on the rtv,
Either way its upto you, only the DP and gearbox inspection cover needs to be moved and NOTHING else
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DSM is to move to Tampa Bay
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07-22-2012, 08:48 AM
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From: Cleveland, Ohio
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The Best RTV I have used is made by toyota and is FIPG, you want the motor stuff (Black) but they also make a trans one thats (pink) and stays a Little softer.
Dave
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07-22-2012, 08:48 AM
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From: Towanda, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by ec17pse
He means the beam that the front engine mount is on, this you dont have to do but the down pipe is a must! I used the gasket jnztuning sent me which is cork and ive not had any leaks and i did that about a year ago now. Rtv is still ok to use, i just prefered a gasket as its better to get off again and seals 100% where you might miss a section on the rtv,
Either way its upto you, only the DP and gearbox inspection cover needs to be moved and NOTHING else
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Yep, the support beam under the car that runs from the front engine mount to the rear of the engine and attaches to the sub-frame.
I had to remove this on mine. Maybe I didn't HAVE to but it made it easier. If you remove this, the triangular support piece near the right front wheel needs removed as well.
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07-22-2012, 09:55 AM
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From: Frisco, Texas
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Originally Posted by NHerron
There are two specific bolts to keep track of, which the picture attached outlines. Otherwise the correct length bolts may be mixed up with longer ones and cause damage to the timing belt in a groove like way. The picture also recommends RTV to be used as already stated. The oil drain for the turbo which attaches to pan uses crush type washers under the bolt heads.
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Thank you for the diagram. I will be using it during assembly of my motor.
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2000 S10 2Dr. Blazer
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07-22-2012, 11:13 AM
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From: Hertfordshire, Europe
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Originally Posted by fourgsixthree33
Yep, the support beam under the car that runs from the front engine mount to the rear of the engine and attaches to the sub-frame.
I had to remove this on mine. Maybe I didn't HAVE to but it made it easier. If you remove this, the triangular support piece near the right front wheel needs removed as well.
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no you really dont need to remove them lol it was NOT tight for me or a pain and i was on the floor aswell, im not sure i follow on this triangular piece as i never took anything off but the DP and gearbox inspection cover and i did the whole job with only them items off, maybe if you can link me a pic of what you mean just for reference,
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DSM is to move to Tampa Bay
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07-22-2012, 11:40 AM
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From: Pickens, SC, South Carolina
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Can you not use the red rtv?
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07-22-2012, 11:41 AM
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From: Columbia, Missouri
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Can you not use the red rtv?
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You could, but it is probably the worst type of rtv that you can use. Grey is a way better choice.
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