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06-18-2012, 09:49 AM
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98 GST need turbo
Okay so heres my issue. i just got my 98 gst but the guy blew the seals on the turbo and it is no longer in commission. what is my best option here? rebuild the stock turbo? get a new one? i need a sort of cheap way because i have other bills to pay to, i found a 1g turbo on craigslist for $50, would that work?
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06-18-2012, 10:15 AM
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That will work but you will need a install kit for that 14b.
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06-18-2012, 12:06 PM
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If you have a little money I'd go ahead and get a 14b. T25s are just too easy to screw up. I got a 14b with no shaft play, coolant lines, drain tube, and j-pipe all for $125 on eBay.
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06-18-2012, 12:22 PM
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No. It's a small turbo with almost 0 potential for more than stock power.
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06-18-2012, 12:26 PM
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http://www.ecrater.com/p/2245261/gar...ocharger?gps=1
Just a quick Google search shows a rebuild kit for $45, plus you have to know what you are doing so you don't screw it up. Also, I assume that, like most normal people, you have not rebuilt a Turbo so that's a lot of time invested in changing the thing.
IMHO, Turbo upgrade time when t25 takes a crap.
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06-18-2012, 12:31 PM
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so whats my best and not necessarily cheapest option but not stupid expensive option, i just wanna get it boosted again
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Originally Posted by 97mitzugst
If you have a little money I'd go ahead and get a 14b. T25s are just too easy to screw up. I got a 14b with no shaft play, coolant lines, drain tube, and j-pipe all for $125 on eBay.
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you said on ebay, what do i type in to look that up?
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06-18-2012, 02:47 PM
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Just type in 14b turbo or you could try for a small 16g. It's really hit or miss if you can even find one, and if you do normally they need to be rebuilt. I got a good deal in mine. No shaft play and no signs of the seals being bad.
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06-18-2012, 02:50 PM
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If you do flea bay make sure to get a genuine mhi turbo if you are going bigger than a 14b, and not some knock off becaue they usually dont last
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06-18-2012, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsawd95dsm
If you do flea bay make sure to get a genuine mhi turbo if you are going bigger than a 14b, and not some knock off becaue they usually dont last
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I forgot to add that. I would only get MHI, and would never run one of the cheap Chinese turbos.
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06-18-2012, 04:55 PM
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is it worth getting the one off craigslist? the guy said there is minimal shaft play up and down, not in and out? i can post pics if it would help?
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06-18-2012, 05:51 PM
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$50 sounds pretty fair for a good 14b. You would still need a 2g install kit though. You have to have a jpipe pretty much. The t25 oil return line can be "modded" to fit the 14b fine. I would get the 14b and look on eBay for a 2g 14b install kit if you can't afford one from a vendor.
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06-18-2012, 06:30 PM
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cool is it hard to mod it? i new to the turbo scene so, my last car was a 300zx na...im just really tryin to get her boosted
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06-18-2012, 06:32 PM
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No basically you just make the bolt holes larger on the return line where it bolts to the turbo.
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06-18-2012, 09:06 PM
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No basically you just make the bolt holes larger on the return line where it bolts to the turbo.
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sweet thanks for the tips guys!
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06-18-2012, 11:40 PM
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IMHO, Turbo upgrade time when t25 takes a crap.
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More-so, when a T25 is blown to the point that it no longer makes boost, it's junk to the point where it can't be rebuilt. I got burned on buying so many T25 cores with shaft play in the past that I now only buy good, working T25's to rebuild for customers. They're not nearly as forgiving in the shaft play department as MHI turbos.
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06-19-2012, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JusMX141
More-so, when a T25 is blown to the point that it no longer makes boost, it's junk to the point where it can't be rebuilt. I got burned on buying so many T25 cores with shaft play in the past that I now only buy good, working T25's to rebuild for customers. They're not nearly as forgiving in the shaft play department as MHI turbos. 
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That's exactly why I finally bought a 14b. I have 3 t25 turbos sitting in my garage right now, and all 3 are junk.
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06-19-2012, 05:19 AM
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Dont forget the T28 as a mild upgrade and direct replacement without needing a 2G install kit! So if you happen to find one in good condition and cheap, it is a direct swap.
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06-19-2012, 09:12 PM
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At stock boost levels it SHOULD be fine, but with cars you never really know. If you happen to have a logger then just watch your injector duty. I believe it's not supposed to pass 85%.
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06-19-2012, 09:47 PM
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whats the max psi i can push with the 14b with the stock smic (hopefully im getting a fmic soon), and speaking of, whats the best fmic for a good price? i just dont know where to look for this kind of stuff (minus ebay)
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06-20-2012, 01:34 PM
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another good place to buy turbos from is evolutionm.net. you can get a stock 16 for around $150 from time to time and sometimes good precision turbos as well.
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06-20-2012, 04:08 PM
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well i am lookin at a 14b today in like 20 mins, he wants $50 but im gonna try and talk him down, he is also throwing in the oil and coolent lines, the only thing he doesnt have is the j bend but i found that on flea bay for $35, i can post pics of it when i get it and see what you guys think?
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06-20-2012, 04:19 PM
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another good place to buy turbos from is evolutionm.net. you can get a stock 16 for around $150 from time to time and sometimes good precision turbos as well.
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Please stop linking people to turbos that are either 6 times too large for their goal or have no promise of ever fitting a DSM. I deleted a very similar response from yourself in another thread.
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06-20-2012, 05:00 PM
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Newer evo turbos won't work on dsms. Iirc they flow reverse compared to ours. People have tried and failed to use them many times. As for the jpipe I have a punishment racing jpipe in my classified ad. Pm me if interested Ill save ya a little money. Good luck with the 14b
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