Avid racing motor mounts 2G fwd

[blackhawkgsx]

Hi im not sure if im posting this topic in the right spot but here goes.

im not really new to the dsm world but im not a pro, I recently bought another dsm after my last one got stolen any way i noticed the car needed motor mounts when i was test driving it , basically there wasn't any mounts on the car i could almost rotate the engine 45* each direction. I usually go with the poly inserts but i decided to go balls out and get some Avid racing motor mounts 62a for the street/strip from extreme psi!!! they arrived quickly thanks to extremepsi's great shipment when I got them they looked flawless

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I was so eager to install them since basically there wasn't any on the car, But I ran into some issues while installing! the driver side mount was 3/4'' to wide and would not fit into the slot !! after trying to force it in there i knew tha wasnt going to work unless i grinded down the extra meat

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[gstryyder]

so hows the install on those puppies? was thinking about getting those but decided to go with the full solid aluminum inserts into the stock motor mounts.. it is gonna be such a pita to get the solid mounts installed myself... =/

 

[blackhawkgsx]

After fighting with that mount i hoped that would be the end of the modification and the rest would be a painless install, boy was i wrong the tranny mount and the rear mount look awesome but the base of the mount is to thick and required some attention as well

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[/IMG] you can see in the picture how the base is almost double the height of the stock one with this mount i had to shave down the base where the bolt holes where because the studs on the tranny are not long enough to be able to bolt it down safely.

finally i get to the rear mount and this was by far the easiest mount to replace by far BUT i had to purchase new bolts! why same reason the mount's base is almost twice as thick as the stock

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all in all the mounts feel nice very stiff and smooth shifting the engine does not move at all so im happy with that but im not happy with the amount of modification i had to do I figured i would spend the extra money ($300) for something that would be a painless install but in fact it ended up to be more hassle then just using the poly urethane inserts

 

[proteusx301]

I attempted to install mine as well and stopped when I ran into the same problems as you. I haven't gotten around to sending a email to Avid racing yet, but will be doing so. For $300 you think someone would have done their homework and had these be bolt in. I was extremely disappointed in the R&D behind these.

 

[blackhawkgsx]

thanks I'm glad i was not the only person to run into this problem does any one have a number or email to contact them to notify them of the issues so other dsmer's don't have the same problem i did , because not every one has the equipment to modify the mounts safely

 

[proteusx301]

Their main website has contact info I believe.

 

[blackhawkgsx]

so hows the install on those puppies? was thinking about getting those but decided to go with the full solid aluminum inserts into the stock motor mounts.. it is gonna be such a pita to get the solid mounts installed myself... =/

the install pretty much sucks you have to buy longer bolts for the rear mount and fitment was terrible although I am happy with the performance

 

[gstryyder]

bummer to hear that it was such a pita. hopefully in the future they will include bolts n washers for the instsall to go easier. i mean those are a pretty penny to buy... bolts are only a couple bucks... good to hear the performance is there though.

 

[yzfr6avid]

Hey guy's I just came across this thread. I'm not sure what had happen here, but if you PM I can assist you further.

When installing any engine mounts especially aftermarket one's. There is less play then the stock engine mounts. You'll need to loosen ALL engine mounts to smoothen your install, this will allow the engine to have some give to allow the mounts to be properly installed. Stock mounts allow more movement the any polyurethane mount. If you need anything just let me know.

 

[atomhouse]

Man, I haven't heard a single good thing about Avid mounts yet.

 

[DWR-DSM]

Man, I haven't heard a single good thing about Avid mounts yet.

IDK what you are talking about...

 

[yzfr6avid]

Man, I haven't heard a single good thing about Avid mounts yet.

Yeah, I'm sorry that you've heard that. I feel that a lot of people have had great success with them. Before any of the mounts were released, there were reputable shops such as MA Performance that tested these kits out as well as others.

See your pics of the stock mounts that are broken? Those stock mounts have relief holes in them for better vibration control, therefore allowing more engine movement. Avid mounts are a solid thru polyurethane type engine mount. You're going to have to loosen all mounts in the engine bay to allow these to fit in.

 

[BrokenTsi]

On my car, (1g), I went further than just loosening the motor mounts, I disconnected them completely. The driverside mount still won't fit. Not even close. The rear mount seems to be ok, I'm using a cro-moly roll stop bar in the front, and my transmission isnt even installed yet. I managed to get it to bolt in once by beating the hell out of my car, and the angle was so severe, that the aluminum mount was TWISTING.


So far, I hate these mounts. After I get out of work tonite, I'm going to try to put in the stock mount. If the stock mount fits without issue, I'm going to throw the Avid mounts in the garbage.

 

[yzfr6avid]

On my car, (1g), I went further than just loosening the motor mounts, I disconnected them completely. The driverside mount still won't fit. Not even close. The rear mount seems to be ok, I'm using a cro-moly roll stop bar in the front, and my transmission isnt even installed yet. I managed to get it to bolt in once by beating the hell out of my car, and the angle was so severe, that the aluminum mount was TWISTING.


So far, I hate these mounts. After I get out of work tonite, I'm going to try to put in the stock mount. If the stock mount fits without issue, I'm going to throw the Avid mounts in the garbage.

Not a problem Andrew, I got your email... We'll be definitely helping you out in resolving this issue that you are having. We've sold quite a few of these kits and have great success with them, anytime anyone has an issue, we'll be glad to help. These kit's do come with a limited lifetime warranty. Check your email Andrew.

Here are some pics on the install too done by MA Performance, they did a great job with helping us

 

[proteusx301]

It's not that they don't fit. Its the fact that the aluminium plate is too thick for the trans studs to come through far enough for enough threads to securely engage.

 

[my98gsx]

I had problems with my avid mounts as well - avid contacted me and acted concerned. i sent them an email with pictures and never heard back from them. i should have stayed with my prothane mounts...

 

[yzfr6avid]

I had problems with my avid mounts as well - avid contacted me and acted concerned. i sent them an email with pictures and never heard back from them. i should have stayed with my prothane mounts...

Yeah I'm sorry that you didn't get a response, sometimes it can go to spam. Can you pm me and I can help you then? We've been closed for the past 6 weeks due to our move, it wasn't suppose to take this long, but it is. Sorry for the inconvience. Let me know.

 

[BrokenTsi]

I had problems with my avid mounts as well - avid contacted me and acted concerned. i sent them an email with pictures and never heard back from them. i should have stayed with my prothane mounts...

I never did get my phone call. But I dont need it now. Lucky enough, I was able to figure something out to get them to work, so now I'm happy.

If your engine is already in, and you do the mounts one by one, you should be ok. I dropped my longblock in without the trans so I had just the front (non Avid) and rear mount in. The driver side mount gave me HELL.

Put the driverside mount in first, regardless if you're timing belt is on or not. Mine wasnt on, I did the driverside mount last. Then do whatever you need to do to line up the front and rear mount. I still havent put my trans back in yet, but I'm praying that it doesnt give me a problem and I hope the engine sits in the stock location so i dont have to modify anything to make the trans mount work.

 

[kimcheefists]

It sucks to hear the install on these is not smooth. I had these on my wishlist for the past year but I'm kinda leaning towards the Prothanes after reading this thread. I was expecting it to be simple bolt on and I didn't want to deal with cutting through the stock mounts to install the Prothanes but it looks like it takes about the same amount of time to install the Avids with all the modifications you have to do.

 

[BrokenTsi]

There really isnt any modifications necessary. They will work just fine.

My car is extensively modified so it was a little more difficult for ME. But its nothing I wasnt able to handle.

My advice is to change them one at a time if your engine is still in your car. Start with the driverside mount first, then do the rear, the trans, then the front.

 

[proteusx301]

From what I'm reading it looks like the 1g mounts work fine but the 2g mounts need some revisions.

 

[BrokenTsi]

Its the fact that the stock holes in the mounts are much larger then the ones from avid. So the install needs to be precise regardless of 1g or 2g. Thats why the driverside mounts needs to be put on first. Even tho one mount may bolt in, doesnt mean the engine is sitting correctly. If its not correct, one or more of your mounts will have an aweful time lining up.

 

[proteusx301]

Thats not the issue with the 2g trans mount. The studs that are on the transmission are not long enough to come through the mount base on the Avid mount. This is due to the Avid mount base being twice as thick as the OEM mount. It is not an alignment issue.

 

[blackhawkgsx]

Thats not the issue with the 2g trans mount. The studs that are on the transmission are not long enough to come through the mount base on the Avid mount. This is due to the Avid mount base being twice as thick as the OEM mount. It is not an alignment issue.

My point exactly the bolts can not be safely tightened and i have contacted avid on more than one occasion left messages emails etc . I dont want to take a dremal to the mount because im scared that will compromise the strength .. any one fix this issue?

 

[driftmax]

WOW!!!!! I was actually planning to buy a set of these mounts on friday, but now im not sure if i want to, I should probably just go with the energy suspesnsion inserts. any suggestion? I have a 2g