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[crave13k]

hey everyone.
well im planning my build on my 2g gsx (seized motor). i picked u a 1g block so i wouldnt have the crankwalk problem. anyway i just wanted to know what would be the best route to get to about 700+ horsepower. i was thinking of the bc 2.3 stroker kit and 272 cams, bc valvetrain, port and polished 2g head, smim manifold and a gt42 turbo. what compression should i go with to reach my goal?

 

[nyTalonTsi]

Im new to dsms but the 2.3s are really unbalanced and shake themselves apart unless you buy a $400 engine dampener. Waste of money and ive heard they give up the ghost with low miles . If you go with a stroked 2.0 with stock crank (2.1) those work well. It's just the 2.3s that suck

 

[crave13k]

so i should go with a 2.0? what compression should i go with?

 

[nikkeebabee]

Whoa... there's some misinformation...

FYI a stroked 2.0 IS a 2.3... Where did you hear they shake themselves apart??? There's plenty that are running around just fine on oem pulleys...

you might be thinking of a 2.1 DEstroker...

What exactly are you attempting to do with the car besides make 700 hp??? gt42 is overkill... gt35r will do the trick on race gas and over 30psi or a 37r/t67 variant... But it really banks on exactly what you want out of the car... 700hp is great but a 500hp that actually puts power down and makes use of it is much better...

 

[robinho609]

either way thats gonna be a monster

 

[BoredDSM]

I would just go with a 2.0 just because it is easier instead of purchasing a fairly expensive crank. For 700whp I would suggest an eagle h beam or i beam rods. H beams will put you at the bottom of 700whp as in you are somewhat pushing them near there limits while I beams you would be comfortably there. Ross pistons 8:5:1 compression ratio for ease with tuning unlike the 9:0:1 ratio pistons. Ross pistons have also been proven to handle over 700whp. Stock 1g crank will be fine.

I like the 1g head just because it's easier than making all this swapping. Head wise a lightly ported 2g head and 272 or 280 cams will suffice. Of course you will be needing some springs and retainers. I've personally seen ffwd beehive springs to be very effective. Valves are your choice and you will definatly need a set of adjustable cam gears.

 

[nyTalonTsi]

When my friend went to rebuild his motor 2.3l the guy at the shop(owns 2 1g turbos) told him to stay away from that set up because they don't hold well without spending some extra money where you can just avoid the problem. So hes going with the 2.4l hybrid setup with the 1g block. From the hybrid setups ive seen, your jaw would drop. The eagle h rods and ross pistons also hold up pretty well. Those adjust cam gears and 272 cams sound mean. Im pretty close to rebuilding maybe another year. Good luck

 

[crave13k]

well i want to build the car to race it at the track. i had a fullybuild integra gsr(650hp) before i got my dsm. my teg got stolen and i have always liked awd dsm's, so now that i finally got one i plan on building it to go crazy fast. im new to dsm's and i dont know what works well i and fully understand that they're different from hondas which is why i need help. im debating over having it be a daily driver and occasional weekend drag car. what i really want is to run 9's. what setup will help me accomplish this? the reason i want the gt42 is because i want to leave room for more boost and improvent.... any input is aprreciated.

 

[BoredDSM]

Yea, for 650WHP your looking at a nice 2.0 setup. The thing about using a gt42 is it will leave room for you to upgrade but it will not give you the kind of power you need now. You will have quite a bit of lag and not as streetable as say a gt35. Eagle H-Beams+Ross Pistons WORK.

 

[dsm-onster]

No one is going to tell you how to run 9 second quarter mile times. If they do give you their recipe, they're wrong and havn't done it.

 

[crave13k]

im not looking for a recipe. just help. my goal is low 9's for now. i just want to know how to get there. im sure every setup is different with pros and cons. so i guess 2.0 it is. so how many pounds can i boost using 8:5:1 compression? another question i have is, how many pounds will a 35r max out at?

 

[dsm-onster]

No, it's all the same. We don't have other engine choices. We do have other car choices, but so does anyone with a cutting torch and a welder. After you 'crack the crank case', the same rules apply, honda or mitsubishi. So you already know how to achieve 650whp

9 second path:
Big f^^^ing turbo
Big f^^^ing fuel
Big f^^^ing suspension
Just do more reading. I don't think any TRUE 9 second honda owners are going to give you secrets or even help that would not be a benefit to an 11 second car. So didn't you learn how to build your 650whp 13K rpm honda on your own?

Anyone else here willing to give advice on a low 9 second build?

If you have a 650whp FWD 4 cylinder, then you certainly don't need to ask us lowly DSMers . These gentleman can answer your questions: Curt Brown, Sean Glazar, David Buschur, Kevin Kwiatkowski, Marco Passante, Serge Turcotte, John Shepherd, or Brent Rau. Give them a call and your CC number and you're on your way.

 

[snowborder714]

The newbie forum description at the top of this page comes to mind right now...