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arbiter

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I went to the junkyard this afternoon and I saw a big Renault Van, a Master series one.
I saw the IC and I started puting it to the guts..

The IC is 720mmx200mmx42mm. End caps are plastic, and hoses must be 2.5".

What can I spect from it? I hope that despite of being only 42mm it should be better than stock IC, or not?
 
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Caught..........thats a comment.
As far as I know no one has used one before or knows what it even looks like. So if you want to use it you probably need to make your own piping.
 
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It's barely 2" thick. Is it a front mount if so yes its better than stock.

You can pick up a much bigger intercooler of ebay for around $100. Post some pics but from the measurements I would say its still enough if your running a 16g or smaller turbo.
 
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Well the fact now, is that I am runing stock, and my planings are barely to take out the turbo from an EVO and put it in. By now, this one was for free, as usually on sundays, junkyards are closed. I love gettin inside a junkyard on sundays... :rocks:
 
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arbiter said:
Well the fact now, is that I am runing stock, and my planings are barely to take out the turbo from an EVO and put it in. By now, this one was for free, as usually on sundays, junkyards are closed. I love gettin inside a junkyard on sundays... :rocks:
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So you're wondering how well an intercooler you "caught" (stole) from a Renault van at the junkyard will perform? I'm not sure we can help you there.
 
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1stGenTSi junkyards are paid by the state to dismantle the vehicule and recycle it.
Vehicule should be all liquids drain, all non-recycle elements keept in safe place and the part to be recycle dispatched asap.
In real life.. they try to sell everything they can before making rubish of it.
"Recycling center" or "green point" is the name the state has given to the junkyards

I haven't done anything illegal as the vehicle is not property of the junk, should not exist, and I have not passed over any barrier, wall, door, or closement of the property.

Well, we don't live in the same country ;)


Don't start a ethical discussion on a thread that just try to evaluate the possibilities of a big IC taken out of a van
 
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Over here stealing is stealing and it's a shitty way to get your stuff. Like you said we don't live in the same country. So even if it can be justified over there you are still talking to us. You know the people in a different country and everything. And by the way it's not okay over here. :notgood:
 
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arbiter said:
1stGenTSi junkyards are paid by the state to dismantle the vehicule and recycle it.
Vehicule should be all liquids drain, all non-recycle elements keept in safe place and the part to be recycle dispatched asap.
In real life.. they try to sell everything they can before making rubish of it.
"Recycling center" or "green point" is the name the state has given to the junkyards

I haven't done anything illegal as the vehicle is not property of the junk, should not exist, and I have not passed over any barrier, wall, door, or closement of the property.

Well, we don't live in the same country ;)


Don't start a ethical discussion on a thread that just try to evaluate the possibilities of a big IC taken out of a van
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I'm not starting an ethical discussion, I couldn't care less about where you get your parts. I was letting you know that your not going to get any helpful info about some intercooler from a van.
 
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If it's not stealing, why did you get it on sunday while they were closed vs. any other day of the week?

Anyway, bigger isn't always better. Bigger in the proper dimensions can be. It really depends on how the core is arranged. I'm guessing the flow goes through the short section, that's about 8"x1 3/4 for the flow core or 14in^2. The stock SMIC (just going by memory, I'm too lazy to go into the garage) is about 6X3, probably thicker and wider, but going with that, that's a 18in^2 flow area. The flow distance is much shorter too. This means less cooling, but significantly less pressure drop.

Sometimes this is a big deal, other times it is not. My friend had a stock SRT-4 IC on his van (similar dimensions to yours), and he swapped to one of my big ones and with no other modifications he got an extra 5psi. That means it was taking 5psi of work from the turbo to get across the IC. The SRT-4 IC is notoriously restrictive though.

Fin density is also a big factor. Since most trucks and vans are not high performance, they will have cores that are dedicated to pulling heat from the charge. This can further the pressure drop, and if the core is already big enough for the lower airflow application you're using it for, will do nothing to reduce inlet temperatures further than if it had been a better flowing design.

The moral of the story is there is a lot more to the story than size. It also depends on what you will be doing with it. The only way you'll know for sure is to try it I guess.
 
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It will work great. It might not be the best performing I/C possible, but it will be a significant improvement over stock. Like Tkelly said, most truck and van I/Cs are made for maximum Delta T (Change in temp across the I/C), which may lead to some issues on a stock turbo, but anything larger shouldn't be running out of efficiency as soon as a 14b. The fact that the cross sectional area isn't that large is a benefit, and it should work fine.

I also extremely appreciate the OP's ability to speak English even though it is not his first language. He types better than a lot of Americans.

To the rest of you who are questioning the "junkyard" tactic, don't. Their system works differently. It's more a giant recycling facility versus a junkyard.
 
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It looks to be in pretty good shape and you can't beat free parts. However, my only concern would be the fact that the intercooler's end-tanks are made of plastic. I don't know how much boost you plan to run, but I can't see that holding beyond 20 psi. You should pressure test it before you put it on and see how well it holds boost.
 
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arbiter said:
I went to the junkyard this afternoon and I saw a big Renault Van, a Master series one.
I saw the IC and I started puting it to the guts..

The IC is 720mmx200mmx42mm. End caps are plastic, and hoses must be 2.5".

What can I spect from it? I hope that despite of being only 42mm it should be better than stock IC, or not?
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Why not use the front mount IC from a mercedes Sprinter? from a 313 or 413 model.. they are quite large and fit (seen em on 1gs and various other vehicles)

+dont worry about the plastic endtanks.. diesels run alot of boost

+ Remember those Panel svans 8sprinter,trafic,Master,Ford transit etc are beaten to death..they are usually not well taken care either, so clean the IC thorughly from oil residue

+ If you do use that in your 2g, i see some fabrication to the area unter the headlights..ie using a hole saw and cutting a hole or 2..no big deal though.

But.. FMICs go for 100 euros on ebay germany. for a decently sized unit .. .so why even bother fooling around at the scrap yard???
 
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I have been looking forward a Sprinter one before, but really hard to find out.
Have been also on the lookout for the Rover TD5 IC one... REALLY HUGE... same thing.

I cleaned the IC... Damn... I have used almost 20 liters to clean it... Howly shit, it was incredible how much oil was inside the runners.

My car is a 1G that was imported from the states to germany.
100€ FMIC in germany? Drop me a PM as soon as you see one please.

I can't install it until 1st september. My mechanic has taken hollydays and I am using the work van as my daily driver (awfull to drive a Nissan Kubistar all day AND NIGHT long). Starting to be the everyday joke of my friends ;)
 
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I don't think it's going to be much of a gain over the stock sidemount due to the fact that it is really thin. It looks to me that it is only about 1" to 1.5" thick. That will heat soak really quicklike.
 
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being thin, with plastic end tanks is my only concern.

i would ask myself, i'm going to be removing the front bumper to install this, and get custom pipe routing, i might as well spend just a small amount more on a much better ic while i'm doing all this work.
 
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Not worth it IMO. To much hassle and too many questions. How much pressure can it hold? Is it thick enough? Will it fit? How much for custom fitment and piping?

Much better off with a known good intercooler kit you know will fit for not much money off ebay.
 
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