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08-01-2008, 12:18 PM
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Iphone as a data logger?
Has anybody attempted to make a data-logger program for the iphone/ipod touch? Or is it even possible?
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08-01-2008, 05:40 PM
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They have been battling the iphone/macOS for dsmlink for quite a while. I don't know the technical jargon, but it seems to be rather difficult to convert a palm or windows based platform over to a Mac OS.
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08-01-2008, 08:40 PM
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What you can do is... wait for StyleTap to be completed for the iphone/ipod touch and then run it and emulate your Palm application. StyleTap hasnt set a release date yet for the iphone but it is in development and there are a few videos floating around of it working on an iphone.
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08-01-2008, 08:48 PM
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Yea, the reason I made this thread is because I saw this. The only problem now is how does a person connect the iphone to the car?
Last edited by Defiant; 10-14-2008 at 11:11 AM.
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08-01-2008, 09:10 PM
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Just another reason why DS-MAP will be superior... It's next breed will be Java based...
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09-26-2008, 08:24 PM
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Rev will, to a degree. It communicates wirelessly via OBD-2. As you can imagine, some special hardware is required.
Rev
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09-26-2008, 09:00 PM
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Rev will, to a degree. It communicates wirelessly via OBD-2. As you can imagine, some special hardware is required.
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Sweet, my mom just got an ipod touch too. Can't wait for the full thing.
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09-26-2008, 09:06 PM
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Rev will, to a degree. It communicates wirelessly via OBD-2. As you can imagine, some special hardware is required.
Rev
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Yeah, I saw that thing earlier today on Digg. Looks pretty nice.
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10-13-2008, 08:12 PM
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i think the psp has more potential due to the fact that "hacking" or modifying of this product is so much less restricted as compared to apple with the iPhone
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10-13-2008, 09:17 PM
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Thats what I'm thinking as well. I dont know anything modding a psp, but I am certain that there are more than a few individuals on this site capable of making it work
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10-13-2008, 09:36 PM
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Thats what I'm thinking as well. I dont know anything modding a psp, but I am certain that there are more than a few individuals on this site capable of making it work
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Psp would be better because it has the mini usb port, along with a memory stick slot.
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10-14-2008, 12:32 AM
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They have a Dyno software for it, they say its pretty close to a real dyno, look up Dynolicious.
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10-14-2008, 09:38 AM
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Has anyone downloaded the rev lite demo off of the apps yet? I would do it myself, but I am out of town until friday. And I cant just download straight to my touch.
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10-14-2008, 10:10 AM
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Has anyone downloaded the rev lite demo off of the apps yet? I would do it myself, but I am out of town until friday. And I cant just download straight to my touch. 
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I'm bored at work...ill try and download it real quick.
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They have a Dyno software for it, they say its pretty close to a real dyno, look up Dynolicious.
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Yeah Dynolicious is 12.99 and there is another one called InMotion PocketDyno+ for 9.99. Dynolicious has cool graphs and whatnot, but its 13.00 bucks....thats like half a tank of gas in my Honda.
Also, Rev light looks pretty sweet, especially if you autocross. It can use the GPS and show where on the track your g's were and how high they were.....sweet.
Rev Light 
Dynolicious  but really pricey
InMotion PocketDyno+  but has no graphs.
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10-14-2008, 10:45 AM
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I thought about working on something like it.... but Apples's iPhone Dev kit is only available for Mac's and I do not own one. Nor do I have any desire to own one. So I gave up on development aspirations. I 'might' consider googles android cell phone [t-mobile carrier]... but I really dislike google as a company.
Until Apple is more open with the developer licensing, App store and Dev Kit I would not expect to see much out of it. Plus someone would have to create the apple plug to Serial adapter to hook it up to DSMLink.
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10-14-2008, 11:07 AM
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Yeah Dynolicious is 12.99 and there is another one called InMotion PocketDyno+ for 9.99. Dynolicious has cool graphs and whatnot, but its 13.00 bucks....thats like half a tank of gas in my Honda.
Also, Rev light looks pretty sweet, especially if you autocross. It can use the GPS and show where on the track your g's were and how high they were.....sweet.
Rev Light 
Dynolicious  but really pricey
InMotion PocketDyno+  but has no graphs.
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Thanks for doing that. I'm definately gonna check out rev. Does it say anything about the hardware?
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10-14-2008, 11:26 AM
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Thanks for doing that. I'm definately gonna check out rev. Does it say anything about the hardware?
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I got an email from Rev today saying that they would be shipping hardware in November. It's a shame it will only be OBDII
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We expect to be shipping OBD-II WiFi hardware in November.
We will be announcing the price, shipping date and ordering options in
the next couple of weeks.
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10-14-2008, 11:41 AM
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I got an email from Rev today saying that they would be shipping hardware in November. It's a shame it will only be OBDII 
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Damn, I neglected to notice that. So it'll only work on 96-98 ecu's?
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10-14-2008, 11:49 AM
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It should work on your 95...All manufacturers were supposed to switch over to ODBII in their 1995 models, you lucky guy you.
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10-14-2008, 11:58 AM
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It should work on your 95...All manufacturers were supposed to switch over to ODBII in their 1995 models, you lucky guy you.
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Are the 95 eproms obdII? Still sucks though; I was hoping to use it on my 1g also.
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10-14-2008, 12:34 PM
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I thought about working on something like it.... but Apples's iPhone Dev kit is only available for Mac's and I do not own one. Nor do I have any desire to own one. So I gave up on development aspirations. I 'might' consider googles android cell phone [t-mobile carrier]... but I really dislike google as a company.
Until Apple is more open with the developer licensing, App store and Dev Kit I would not expect to see much out of it. Plus someone would have to create the apple plug to Serial adapter to hook it up to DSMLink.
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Does this mean that you can't use the developer software like Xcode that you get with a purchase of a apple computer to write something up for the iphone?
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10-14-2008, 01:17 PM
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It should work on your 95...All manufacturers were supposed to switch over to ODBII in their 1995 models, you lucky guy you.
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Actually I believe 1996 was the magic number. Although some vehicles in 95 ( and even in 94) were compatible. Not sure about the DSM's...
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Does this mean that you can't use the developer software like Xcode that you get with a purchase of a apple computer to write something up for the iphone?
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You have to use the iPhone dev kit, which is a free download.
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10-14-2008, 01:29 PM
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[QUOTE=360glitch;151639706]Actually I believe 1996 was the magic number. Although some vehicles in 95 ( and even in 94) were compatible. Not sure about the DSM's...
If i'm not mistaken, mitsubishi switched all of their vehicles over to obdII after 1995, so all cars from then on have it. Mine does anyways, and on the inside of my door panels, it has a manufacturing sticker on it that says jan 1994.
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10-14-2008, 01:45 PM
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Actually I believe 1996 was the magic number. Although some vehicles in 95 ( and even in 94) were compatible. Not sure about the DSM's...
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Ok lets try again, the 95 is ODB II complient, but you would have to socket it to make it work with a pocket logger I think
Steve, or somebody who knows ECU's will hopefully answer this thread and let us know how to make your 95 ECU work with a pocketlogger...
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10-14-2008, 02:00 PM
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Does this mean that you can't use the developer software like Xcode that you get with a purchase of a apple computer to write something up for the iphone?
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iphone has its own SDK
iPhone Dev Center
Its free, though the licensing agreement is very stringent and you invalidate the license if you use assistance [of any sort really] or post code outside the iPhone Dev Center. For like $199 [which is very cheap in software world] you can get an enterprise level dev center. The coding is in C++ which for me is ideal. Only usable on iphone
The Google Android dev center is likewise free and far less stringent of licensing agreements. But I think you will have licensing issues if you try sell stuff [like the app store for the iPhone, I'll need to read it more closely]. Its java based and can be used on Mac, Windows and Linux. I prefer linux anyways. I just wish it was C++ based. Only usable on Google's Android phone
Android
But since DSMLink source code is written in Java it has a higher chance of portability and ease of portability to the Android platform than the iPhone.... not to mention you don't have to mess with apples silly licensing agreement and platform specific development station which in my opinion will stifle wannabe developers like myself.
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