2nd gear has to be held....opinions?

[RedEyeBanDiT]

my buds 91 awd dsm, when he shifts into second gear you have to hold the shifter back until you let go of the clutch or it wont go into second. it only does it in second. wats this a sign of?

Thanks guys

 

[dsm_racing]

I had this happen a while back and it was due to wear on the teeth of the gear. In my case it was fith gear. Replaced the gear and haven't had any other problems. I don't know if anything else could cause the same symptoms.

 

[JohnCIV_Talon]

This is happening to my 3rg gear, and Im gettingm y tranny rebuilt soon but it has gotten to the point where it wont even go in now, so I would do something about it soon, becasue it will only get worse.

 

[c4uldr0n]

could also be a bad syncro... either way, double check your linkage. If the linkage checks out good, if not you will probably need to work on the tranny.

 

[Burnett03]

could also be a bad syncro... either way, double check your linkage. If the linkage checks out good, if not you will probably need to work on the tranny.

Doubt its a syncro.. Check the gear for signs of wear/and shifter linkage cables.

 

[Locke]

The dog's on 2nd and/or the dogs on the collar, are rounded off, or a bent shift fork.

 

[97gsx_zeclipse]

The same thing happened to me right after I put in new upper and lower IC piping. The shifter was hitting the lower IC. So I adjusted the pipe and shifted fine. Did you just put in new piping?

 

[RedEyeBanDiT]

i know the car has an intercooler not sure how big or anything. i will look today, but im not sure cause he bought it like that, it also has a 3 inch exhaust and its awd

 

[luvmygst]

I was having the same problem with 5th and 4th. I pulled the end cover of the trans and there are two 36mm nuts that are supposed to be torqued to 110 ft/lbs. One of mine was finger tight. I would check that firs. These are actually the nuts that hold all of the gears on.

 

[Mikelb]

hm... this is familiar. It was either 2nd or 3rd in my Talon. Someone put hte radiator hose on wrong, and it was interfering with the shifter arms. Like everyone else has said, check the linkage (first). If not, it is most likely the teeth on the gear, they may be rounding themselves or even straightening themselves out (they're a helical design), replace the gear (and synchros while you got it apart), and check the shift fork and push rod (these seem less likely though).

 

[burnnxs]

syncro

 

[RedEyeBanDiT]

thanks guys

 

[Locke]

If not, it is most likely the teeth on the gear, they may be rounding themselves or even straightening themselves out (they're a helical design), replace the gear

It is likely not the teeth on the gear. The gears are constantly meshed, they dont slip in and out, therefore actual gear teeth problems are rare. Gear problems are usually caused by insane and sudden torque, or more commonly debris.

The parts that mesh are on the edge of the gear, straight cut dogs, (like a ring gear or spur) and the inverse on the collar. These can wear, causing problems with the collar remaining on the gear's dogs. Popping out of gear is a common symptom of this. Also a symptom of a bent shift fork.

 

[luvmygst]

does the shifter move back and forth while in any gear?

 

[RedEyeBanDiT]

the car was sitting for awhile before he bought it, so he pulled out the speedometer sensor and put some special sauce in there and now it shifts much smoother.