Quick Computer and Engine Harness Question

[Bizarre]

Hey,

Two quick questions. I'm kinda getting a little mixed up on the first from what I've been reading on here.

I have a 98 Turbo Awd DSM. Would any turbo 2G engine harness work, or would I specifically need it from a 98?

Also the ECU on the car is cooked. Once again would any 2G ECU work or would it again have to be a 98 ECU?


TIA

 

[SlickGSX]

Any 2G will work but the 95 does not support OBD2 like your 98.

 

[adiffrentcity]

You should look for a 95 harness and computer because some 95s had eeprom ecus which can be set up with dsmlink. Also 95s are obd1 so no matter what make sure the ecu and wiring harness are out of the same year model, and obviously if you have a mt car you need an mt harness and ecu, ditto for an at. Easiest thing would be to find a car thats the same year model as yours and pull them at the same time.

 

[Bizarre]

Any 2G will work but the 95 does not support OBD2 like your 98.

Are you reffering to the harness or the ECU, or both?

So basically it would have to be 96-98?

Thanks for your quick reply.

 

[Bizarre]

You should look for a 95 harness and computer because some 95s had eeprom ecus which can be set up with dsmlink. Also 95s are obd1 so no matter what make sure the ecu and wiring harness are out of the same year model, and obviously if you have a mt car you need an mt harness and ecu, ditto for an at. Easiest thing would be to find a car thats the same year model as yours and pull them at the same time.

Ya sorry I forgot to include the car has a MT.

So therefore a 95 eprom being obd1 would not work as a simple plug in right now in my car with my 98 obd2 harness? At first I had tried a buddy of mines 95 eprom he had he was trying to sell me, and the car never started up. I figure the obd1/obd2 difference was the problem. Looks to be the case in this situation? (This is just a another side question not related to the originals posted)

Thanks for your help.

 

[luvmygst]

A 95 model is the first year of OBDII .It will work in any 95-99 car. If installed in 97-99 you have to swap plug wires. But it is an OBDII computer. Check your facts before spreading MIS-INFORMATION. It would be easier to get a harness from a 97-99 m/t car but you can make any 2g harness work. If it comes from an A/T car you will just have some wiring differences.

Please refer to the rules "Dont try to help if you dont know the answer" Bad/wrong advice can be worse than no advice.

Steps off soap box.

How do you know the ecu is cooked? Its would be rare to try 2 ecu's and the car still not run. I might look elsewhere. When you cut the key on does the CEL come on? Have you tried to connect to the ecu with a logger?

 

[Bizarre]

A 95 model is the first year of OBDII .It will work in any 95-99 car. If installed in 97-99 you have to swap plug wires. But it is an OBDII computer. Check your facts before spreading MIS-INFORMATION. It would be easier to get a harness from a 97-99 m/t car but you can make any 2g harness work. If it comes from an A/T car you will just have some wiring differences.

Please refer to the rules "Dont try to help if you dont know the answer" Bad/wrong advice can be worse than no advice.

Steps off soap box.

How do you know the ecu is cooked? Its would be rare to try 2 ecu's and the car still not run. I might look elsewhere. When you cut the key on does the CEL come on? Have you tried to connect to the ecu with a logger?

So to start, the harness is melted. Previous owner hacked the harness up trying to do a wire tuck and it ended up shorting somewhere and melted a bunch of wires. So far I've been able to only track down a 95 harness. I didn't want to pick it up if it was too much work to make it work. What wiring is it going to take?

As far as the ecu goes, I brought a computer I picked up (a 98) to some mechanic to have checked out because the car came with no computer (long story let's not go there), and he supposedly checked it out and told me it wasn't good. After reading your post, I tried the ecu out on a buddys car and it works fine. The mechanic and to me for listening.

I still need a harness though.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Bizarre]

Is a 95 harness goign to need a lot of modding to work in a 98 DSM? Cas is turbo, manual, and so is the harness.

 

[InvaderGSX]

I don't know where everyone is coming up with a 95 not being compatible. 95's are OBDII. I do not know where all you guys are coming up with it being OBD1. The wiring harness's are the same except from an automatic to a manual there is a difference because an automatic has a TCU while a manual doesn't. Any 95 to 99 turbo ECU will work on any 95 to 99 turbo car. You just have to swap plug wires. The only possible difference I can see is a 95-96 has a different CAS than the 97-99, but that is easily changed or converted. For example I have a 95 and put a 97 CAS in my car because the 95-96 CAS are a piece of crap being the cam gear which is a pain in the butt to replace. So people before you try to help someone out please only help if you know something factual because you guys are giving out false information.

 

[Bizarre]

I don't know where everyone is coming up with a 95 not being compatible. 95's are OBDII. I do not know where all you guys are coming up with it being OBD1. The wiring harness's are the same except from an automatic to a manual there is a difference because an automatic has a TCU while a manual doesn't. Any 95 to 99 turbo ECU will work on any 95 to 99 turbo car. You just have to swap plug wires. The only possible difference I can see is a 95-96 has a different CAS than the 97-99, but that is easily changed or converted. For example I have a 95 and put a 97 CAS in my car because the 95-96 CAS are a piece of crap being the cam gear which is a pain in the butt to replace. So people before you try to help someone out please only help if you know something factual because you guys are giving out false information.

Thanks for your quick reply. Much appreciated. You've answered all my questions