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What else it good to do with 6 bolt engine build? daily driver!

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96gstdsm

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I decided to go with a rebuilt 6 bolt engine for my 2g eclipse. I was looking at a modified crank 7 bolt, but for another 1300 more than the 6 bolt i think it is worth the swap over for a more dependable engine. I have asked about this place before and it seems to have gotten pretty good feedback for the most part. Overbore.com i believe it is. My main question here is that i am trying to rebuild my whole car since it has 150k miles on it and make it so it should last a long time and be reliable. I am going to be rebuilding the tranny, engine, new clutch flywheel, new fuel setup and turbo, exhaust and suspension. If all this work is done by a professional engine builder and tranny place and installed by a reputable shop, this should be reliable? The turbo i am going to be running is an evo316g turbo. Are there problems that always arise with a little higher hp numbers? My goal is a complete max of 300 at the wheels, dont even know if i will be close to that with this setup. It is going to be my daily driver so it needs to perform well and for a long time! i know i wont get return on the money i invest into it, but if it lasts me a long time with few problems than that is all i could ask for.
This is the link to the engine i want to buy.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MITSUBISHI-ECLIPSE-4G63T-ENGINE-1G-2-0-TURBO-GST-4G63_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQhashZitem160087586442QQihZ006QQitemZ160087586442\

He lists that with buy it now, i can get a choice of a few different extra options with the engine, which one should be the best or most important to have done?
Are there anything else i should have done to the engine while it is being built? Once again this is for a moderate hp daily driver.

If someone has done the 6 bolt swap, do you know besides the actual install how much it costs approximately for all the swap parts? Not including the engine and such, but like a total of the add ons needed? I have an ACT 2100 clutch now along with the ACT streetlight flywheel, i know i would need a new 6 bolt flywheel, do i need a new clutch as well?

Any other suggestions would really be helpful. I am going to be spending quite a good amount of money on this setup, so i want to make sure that i make the right choices! I am already decided, on turbo, fuel, exhaust all that, i just need to know more about the build up of an engine, not very familiar with that.


-----Ryan. Sorry for the long post.
 
your clutch will work. They are all compatable between turbo 4g63's from what I know.

you will need a cam angle sensor, water neck, and a few misc sensors. I would plan on spending 100 bucks on little crap if it come with intake and sensors. Sorry I didnt have time to look at the engine you linked.
 
The engine i am looking at getting comes as a long block with water pump, timing belt attached. I believe everything else has to be put onto it or swapped from my 7 bolt. Would there be a lot of parts from my 7 bolt that would not work out? Since i would need new flywheel, does anyone know besides the flywheel an approximate cost for the needed items, besides like turbo and fuel setup? I know the intake manifolds are real cheap so i would pick up a 1g one, and then the rest of the little stuff i have no idea on pricing for that.
 
Yeah i plan to use that. I just got a ported evo3 manifold so that should do fine till way over my hp goals!
 
Would i need to replace the fuel rail. and other little things like that? Does the power steering and cruise control and stuff swap over from my 7 bolt?
 
Sorry to post in my thread again, i just havent gotten any opinions really, and i'm looking to start up the build process as soon as possible so i would like to know what else i might be missing in regards to the engine build listed on the ebay auction from overbore.com. Is it necessary to go with better pistons and rods etc? What about balancing and blueprinting, or street port and polish etc?
 
If i were to choose one of the buy it now options i would go with balancing and blueprinting. I cant believe they dont offer that for free. Anyway for this swap you use the 2g mounts and all the 2g components (PS, AC, all that). A good site to look that has info about the parts you need for the swap is http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/tech/index.htm look at the 1g in a 2g article
 
If i were to choose one of the buy it now options i would go with balancing and blueprinting. I cant believe they dont offer that for free. Anyway for this swap you use the 2g mounts and all the 2g components (PS, AC, all that). A good site to look that has info about the parts you need for the swap is http://www.magnusmotorsports.com/tech/index.htm look at the 1g in a 2g article

Hey thanks alot for that link, very helpful. If i don't get the balance and blueprint option what would the effects be? Does this seem like an over all good deal? Would i need to get better pistons and rods most likely for a good 300whp max daily driver?
 
Sounds like a great plan. I was looking through the repsonses and I don't see a DSM link recommended. I know there's a way of wiring the computer if you check out vfaq.com to get around the deal but I know with my six bolt swap project I have a miss fire problem due to the sensors signals from the crank and cam being messed up. I couldn't get the cam angle trick to work. Good luck to ya tho.
 
Sounds like a great plan. I was looking through the repsonses and I don't see a DSM link recommended. I know there's a way of wiring the computer if you check out vfaq.com to get around the deal but I know with my six bolt swap project I have a miss fire problem due to the sensors signals from the crank and cam being messed up. I couldn't get the cam angle trick to work. Good luck to ya tho.

Yeah i was considering dsm link but am not knowledgable at all with tuning, and the price is a bit high, i'm sure worth it with experience, but non the less expensive. I think i would for now probably go with an safc or a dsm chip. Yeah i think i would swap over the CAS, and any other parts i can find that would be needed.


My real main question in this post is Which option would be best to get. One person here thought the balance and blueprint option would be best. Do others agree? What would the outcome be if i did not have it balanced and blueprinted? Should i get different pistons than the ones listed or rods? I really would like some feedback on this subject if people have any experience. I have never built up an engine before, and i really want to make sure i make the correct decision for my power goals. Like i said before in an earlier post, my main hope is to have it very reliable, and stiff have a good amount of power, nothin crazy like for drag racing, but a complete max of like 300 whp, if that is a feasible goal.
 
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