Best cams for my setup?

[moonraker]

i had posted a question as to why ive got such low hp compared to what my car should be getting with my setup in this thread http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246096&highlight=stroker+high+compression I'm looking at getting some nice aftermarket cams to bring out the power thats not being utilized with my setup. my setup is explained in the above thread aswell as in my vehicle profile. all i have now are stock cams, i was going to go for the HKS 272/272 setup, but then i noticed the Crower cams that go to 280 and even 288 in the stage 4 setup. for a street car, only street gas, what would be the best cam choice? i want the most power i can get out of my setup, but it needs to be fairly streetable aswell as this is my daily driver. thanks alot for your time and im anxious to see what you guys think.

 

[absolute_DSM]

Id opt for the 272/272 combo (especially for street use). Thats only cause Im partial to the FP3s and thats a close grind.

 

[moonraker]

are the crowers not a good choice for street use? i just want to make sure i make the right choice before i spend $900 on cams and gears, and later find out i can get more... it is a street car though, so there is such a thing as too much.

 

[brute]

Any variant of 272's. They don't have to be HKS brand and super expensive... You can get FP2's, DKS 272's, Crower 272's, etc. Just stick to that. In my opinion, 280 is too big for the street.

 

[wvturbo2]

280's would give you a really rough idle. My friend has stage 4 crowers and his car idles really rough and is sometimes a pain in the ass to get started. 272's seem to be used by everyone and have great sucess go with that. I plan on gettin the dks when i do cams in mine. GL with your car.

 

[absolute_DSM]

Remember he is running a 2.3 stroker..... is 280 even too big for that?

 

[GSXspeeddemon]

I would suggest that you go more than the 272/272 combo. You should look more into the 280's being you have a 2.3l

 

[JayRolla]

I dont know why everyone says not to get the 280/280 combo. A stoker on 272's are almost like stock. I would go with 280's or bigger. My mechanic is running FP3x's on a street car and it idles real well with dsmlink. They have a .430 intake lift which is big. 280's would be a little small for your set up in my opinion.

 

[absolute_DSM]

Id opt for the 272/272 combo (especially for street use). Thats only cause Im partial to the FP3s and thats a close grind.

Ok I thought everyone was offering a low grind for that stroker......

So like I was saying before, Id at least go with FP3s. (they and the FP3xs are made for strokers in mind) even though everyone else has already mentioned it.

 

[DiamondStarAwd]

buddy runs 280's in his 2.0. I have yet to see or hear the car in person but over teh phone it was a very very mean idle and he said it pulls incredibly hard. Just has trouble starting when cold.

 

[JayRolla]

280's are fine in a 2.0 if you revving high. It pretty much shifts the power band higher so you rev hard all the way to 8k rpm or more. Very nice. My buddy is building a 2.3 stroker with 280 cams, crower springs and retainers, and ferrea valves. My mechanic was saying this is a nice street setup. Its also a 7 bolt and he says it can handle 8500rpm even as a stroker. Also a hybrid nascar clutch set up he is making so those high rpm shifts will be possible.

 

[wvturbo2]

I was told that you should rev your 2.3 over 7500 or higher. Because it could cause the cyl walls to turn into an oval shape. I think the 280 would still be ok but a rougher idle and harder start but i was saying my friend had stage 4 which i guess is about 288 or whatever and it runs real rough and stall on occasion and is hard to start still not real bad for street but very rough.

 

[JayRolla]

I was told that you should rev your 2.3 over 7500 or higher. Because it could cause the cyl walls to turn into an oval shape. I think the 280 would still be ok but a rougher idle and harder start but i was saying my friend had stage 4 which i guess is about 288 or whatever and it runs real rough and stall on occasion and is hard to start still not real bad for street but very rough.

Usually people dont rev the strokers high because of the extra stress it causes and you dont need too. I dont agree with this. Ive seen differently. My mechanic runs low 11's on pump and revs high. 280/280's shouldnt be too rough with dsmlink and a high idle. At least his dont sound rough with FP3x's(.430 intake lift)

 

[brute]

Any cam, no matter how radical, will be fine with a higher idle. The point is not to be forced to have a 2500rpm idle for street driving. At that point it just becomes ridiculous. Most people don't even need cams that large; they just want the huge cams for bragging rights I guess.

 

[prostreetdsmx1]

Comp 200's or BC 272's. Both are very affordable and great products. Oh and both have a great idle compared to others.

 

[moonraker]

hmm, i definately dont want problems with starting. this is my daily driver car and it needs to be somewhat streetable. how much more power are we talking about with the 280s from the 272s? i definately want the most power, but i can only sacrifice a certain amount of reliability for power. also, i dont see myself revving up to 8500 rpms to often, and it seems like thats when the 280s show their power? so im stuck between 280s and 272s seem to be leaning towards the 272s because of the hard starting and crappy idle associated with the 280s...

 

[absolute_DSM]

If you have a stroker, you arent gonna have the problems with idle with 280s.

 

[moonraker]

is this true? because if 280s will not affect the idle as much on a stroker, than i will definately go for the 280s. absolute dsm have you had a stroker with 280s? im just trying to make sure this is true...

 

[JayRolla]

My mechanic is running FP3x cams and has no problem. He has a idle around 1500 but thats ok. 280's should be fine. It may be a little rough but not that bad. My buddy is about done with his 2.3 stroker and had a head built with 280's, crower springs, and ferrea valves. Ill let you know how she idles.

 

[moonraker]

ok so im probally goin for the crower 280s then which are stage 3s i believe, im gonna need the crower spring set and adjustable gears correct? do they just drop in?

thanks for all the info guys!

 

[brute]

You don't need the adjustable gears. They are a waste of money in my opinion. And you don't have to get Crower brand springs and retainers, just get whatever kind you want and can afford.

 

[moonraker]

You don't need the adjustable gears. They are a waste of money in my opinion. And you don't have to get Crower brand springs and retainers, just get whatever kind you want and can afford.

from the other crower cam posts i hear that most of them arent degreed in.. resulting in a loss of power. this isnt true?

 

[Street Surgeon]

If you've decided on getting a set of cams for your stroker, why not snag a pair of FP3's made for your motor? Of course if you really want to use them you'll need the cams themselves, and I'd definitely recommend a set of their supertech valvesprings to go in to your head as well.

As for the adjustable cam gear debacle, well a set of Fidanza adj's runs shy of 200 bucks shipped if you look around a bit, and though for most users it's overkill (because they just put them in and won't adjust them), they can significantly improve a lot of driveability and spool issues that people run in to.

Good luck man!