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Old 12-14-2002, 05:44 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #1 (permalink)
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DSM Weight Reduction [merged] diet weight loss strip light

I personally am looking to do some weight reduction while retaining the quiet/smooth ride, and still having a spare so I can go on the highway without getting flatbedded home.

heres some of my ideas, just normal of course.

CF hood
Ditch all of my stereo and just get upgraded 6x9, 5.25, and 3.5's hooked to the factory amp/deck.
CF Hatch<< CF Spoiler< Dimple Drilled/Slotted Rotors


What else is there? I dont wanna tear out all the sound deadening or the spare tire.

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Old 12-14-2002, 06:27 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #2 (permalink)
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loose the back seats, lighter weight rims, light weight racing seats up front, and if you go 4 or 5 point harness you can loose all the seatbelt mechinisims... loose your A/C... and your power steering... if you have power windows, or door locks you could convert those... or just go to snap out lexan windows and gut the door...


but... you sound like you want to make your car weigh less without loosing anything... hummm... I guess you could fill your tires with Helium... or COMPLETELY seal your cab... and fill that with helium too... ;-)


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any tips/ideas on weight reduction?

ive been meaning to get my dsm on a diet.. lets face it, dsm's are heavy as hell.
who has made some major weight reduction?
besides ## usual seats/plastic trims here and there..
any other things to look at?
pics would be grr8..
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You can take your AC out.

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Old 12-14-2002, 11:11 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #5 (permalink)
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Spare tire, Jack, Tools, AC, steel bumpers, exhaust heat shield, gas tank shield, rear seats, all seatbelts (replace fronts with 5 point harnesses), cruise control, battery (replace with lightweight battery), Power steering system (repalce with manual rack), gas tank (replace with fuel cell), stock seats (replace with lightweight seats), Glass (replace with lexan), etc...

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Old 12-15-2002, 08:40 AM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #6 (permalink)
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damn, i didnt realize all that.. thats a lot to look into.
is this stuff u have done yourself? thats sounds like 100lbs
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I have done or will do all of that, except the lexan windows.


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If you have ABS ditch that (trust me it's pretty heavy), glovebox, ALL sound deadner, rear wiper and motor, cut all the bracing off of underneath the hood, and peel all of the insulation from the underside of the carpet. All of that stuff adds up to around 100.00 pounds!

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lol, i can see this happening:

some kid in a honda pulls up to him at a red light, asks him f he wants to go, 98tsiawd rolls down window and says "yeah, why not" in squeaky voice"

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Old 12-15-2002, 12:38 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #10 (permalink)
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Old 12-15-2002, 01:41 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #11 (permalink)
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lol, i can see this happening:

some kid in a honda pulls up to him at a red light, asks him f he wants to go, 98tsiawd rolls down window and says "yeah, why not" in squeaky voice"

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Old 12-15-2002, 01:50 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #12 (permalink)
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if your cab was full of helium... your voice would be squeeky...


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As mentioned, ABS is definately worth pulling. 34lbs (on a 1g) not to mention it takes up a ton of room in the engine compartment. Also, changing to lighter wheels would be smart, rotational weight reduction is always good.
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Project GSX Weight Reduction
Jay Hassinger 1990 GSX


Stock Weight Measured on State Certified CAT Scale 3,070
(Loaded GSX without sunroof and 1/8 tank gas)

Items Taken Away
Rear Seats (upper and lower, leather) 40
Drivers Seat (Leather Adj lumbar) 50
Pass Seat 45
Spare Tire and Jack 35
Various Materials (Spare tire cover, privacy cover etc) 20
Front Seat Belt Assembly (Complete) 30
Rear Seat Belt Assemblies, Speakers and mounting 18
Sound Material Inside Car 25
Stock Radio/CD Player/Amp 10
Front Bumper Support (Completely Removed) 35
Rear Bumper Support (Completely Removed) 32
Fog Lights 5
AC (Everything Removed) 45
Charcol Canister and Battery Tray 6
Driver Side Fan 6
Cruise 6
Various Brackets (Fire wall brackets, Intake, air can, heat shields etc) 10
Rear Wiper Assemby 5
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Total Weight Removed 423

Items Added
Racing Front Seats 50

Total Weight Added 50

Net Weight Removed 373
New Vehicle Weight 2,697





I saved a file from that guy who did 12.86 on a 1g AWD with just 22 psi, advanced timing, and K&N Air Filter. Oh, and the obvious weight reduction.

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That's nice to know..I've done all of that. Well except for the two front seats. I always wondered how much that stff weighed!

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damn, thats a gsx.. i have an rs.. i always thought rs's were in the 3000 plus.. so the stock gsx is just a little over 3k then i wonder how much a stock rs would be..

i did remove passenger and rear seats w rear seatbelts. i kinda felt a difference when i drove it.. my friends said it was all in my head..

im gonna try to remove the rear and front bumpers, i didnt think they were THAT heavy..
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I replaced the front seat's with Sparco's. I am still waiting for a rainy day when I can begin removing more things.
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Keep in mind, that was a 1g. So there may be differences with your 2g.

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how hard and time consuming is it to take out the ac?
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People, people... lets not forget about CARBON FIBER HOODS!!!

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how hard and time consuming is it to take out the ac?

i dont think its worth it, out of all of the turbo'd 4cyl imports out there dsms are actually unique cause they have a/c, cause when most people turbo other imports like that thye usally have to take out the ac or it wont work with a motor swap



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I just pulled the AC from my second 1G DSM and while it is a fairly large PITA, I do think it is well worth it. Both times I have done it, it was noticeable in the seat. I agree that it is nice to have AC and still have decent power and be able to do things the honduhs can't do, but at the same time, they arn't the only competition. On occasion another DSM wants to play too and I want every advantage over them as well. Guess it all depends on your goals.

For my 1G, it was a couple busy hours to get it all out. I am not sure how different the 2G's are. You have to make a small spacer on the 1G when you take off the compressor bracket, I am not sure if that is the case with the 2G either.

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i would of thought it was just a matter of removing bolts, i imagine we had to take appart some other things to get to the entire setup.. im grr8 at taking shiet apart but i can never remember how to put it back together.. if i take it out and some day i want to put it back in im #### out of luck..

what about power steering? those extra reservoirs under the hood that make the bay look cluttered as hell..

does anyone have any ideas on how much stock rs wheels weigh? i had roush wheels last time i went to the track and i didnt think about how much heavier then my stockers they are.. thy must weigh like 30+..
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Has anybody removes the SRS computer from the center console? Is there any danger in just unplugging and removing it?

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i would of thought it was just a matter of removing bolts, i imagine we had to take appart some other things to get to the entire setup.. im grr8 at taking shiet apart but i can never remember how to put it back together.. if i take it out and some day i want to put it back in im #### out of luck..

what about power steering? those extra reservoirs under the hood that make the bay look cluttered as hell..

does anyone have any ideas on how much stock rs wheels weigh? i had roush wheels last time i went to the track and i didnt think about how much heavier then my stockers they are.. thy must weigh like 30+..
I believe the factory alloys weigh 19 lbs without tires which really is not that bad. Most of the cheaper cast aftermarket wheels the same size weigh similar or more. Going to a forged wheel like a volk TE-37 reduces lots of weight (they are 11.2 for a 16x7.5) but forged wheels are very pricey.

I would pull the power steering last after everything else. Only if you are really looking for every pound. I am not sure on 2G's if you can even go to a manual rack, but that is the best way to do it. The 1G manual rack is lighter than the power rack. I know a lot of people just take off the pump and lines, and keep the power rack, It just isn't the way I would go.

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2G-specific weight reduction.........

hey peeps..........
what things can be done to reduce the weight on a 2g gsx??????
exterior mods, taking things off , i wanna hear it all......
but i dont want to take out the seat from the car.........
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Weight reduction

Looked around the forum and no real good answers. if some one could fill out the form below it would be great

EASY(Daily Driver)
Molding.....................................X.0lbs
Hi flow cat .................................X.0lbs
RIMS.....................................X.0lbs
XXXX.....................................X.0lbs
XXXX.....................................X.0lbs
XXXX.....................................X.0lbs
XXXX.....................................X.0lbs
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TOTAL

Moderate (Weekend Warrior)
JACK.....................................X.0lbs
Spare.....................................X.0lbs
RACING seats.....................................X.0lbs
XXXX.....................................X.0lbs
XXXX.....................................X.0lbs
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TOTAL

HARD CORE (DRAG, RACE)
AC .....................................X.0lbs
PS .........................................X.0lbs
XXXX.....................................X.0lbs
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Get out your scale, take off those parts, weigh them and fill out the form. We'll be waiting.

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