Smoke from no where

[lazer103babe]

About two weeks ago i blew out my small 16g turbo, and have since installed an evo3 16g. When swapping out turbos i noticed that there was a lot of oil in the intake system. When i took out my intercooler to clean it out there was litteraly a quart of oil inside of it. Im wondering if there could be that much left in the exhaust.

My problem is after installing the new turbo it blows out oil smoke everywhere from out of the end of the muffler. It's a complete james bond style haha you cant see me smoke ... everytime i rev the car up it looks like a house is on fire, thats how bad the smoke is. I had the car running for about an hour and a half ideling and revving and i did a few pulls, and it just kept on smoking, more of course when the rpms where higher and less when they were lower. When i let it sit it would actually stop smoking until i the engine would heat up a little.

Is it possible to have THAT MUCH oil left over for it to smoke like that, or could it be something else?

 

[playitlouddsm]

Exactly how new in this evo 16g that you installed? If used what shape was it in?

 

[turbo2g111]

If you bought your turbo used, it could be that the turbo itself is leaking internally. Is your engine oil level dropping? Is there a lot of smoke coming from the engine bay? Are your oil lines connected securely? If so, your oil feed line or return line could be leaking oil onto your hot compressor housing. Let us know

 

[drewvr4]

what color is the smoke

 

[lazer103babe]

Exactly how new in this evo 16g that you installed? If used what shape was it in?

brand new from extreme psi.

 

[lazer103babe]

what color is the smoke

it's a white color smoke but i if i take my fingers and put it in the exhaust pipe i can feel the oil inside of it

 

[lazer103babe]

If you bought your turbo used, it could be that the turbo itself is leaking internally. Is your engine oil level dropping?

No the level isnt dropping

 

[turbo2g111]

Oil smoke is usually blue. But, I believe that synthetic oil makes white smoke. You are using full synthetic, correct?

 

[lazer103babe]

Oil smoke is usually blue. But, I believe that synthetic oil makes white smoke. You are using full synthetic, correct?

correct

 

[drewvr4]

never in my life have i ever seen oil smoke be white...even with synthetic not having natural petroleum...its still more of a light blue color...

seriously keep an eye on that...new turbo...different boost and air flow ratios may have sent your head gasket down the drain

 

[dieseltech]

Did you clean everything out? Did you use gas to get rid of all the oil film? Check your PCV valve. Remove it and see if it rattles. Blow thorough it. You should be able to blow through it one way and not the other. Also your oil return could be plugged causing pressure to build in the turbos center section forcing oil past the seals and into the turbo. This should've been checked when you replaced your turbo. Has your engine been rebuilt recently?

 

[turbo2g111]

When you found all of this oil in your intercooler, did you drain it all? Because if your oil level isn't dropping then it has to be already either in your intake system, or be in your exhaust system and burning off. Did your car smoke like this before the turbo was installed? If it did, then think of things that you haven't checked yet. If it didn't, think of things that you changed.

EDIT: When I did my turbo swap, I had a lot of oil on the outside of the compressor housing from my hands getting covered in oil and it burned off white. This is what I'm referring to.

 

[i1nk83]

What does the smoke smell like? If it smells like oil, then you have narrowed it down to the fluid burning. If it smells kinda sweet and is a thick white smoke, you are burning coolant. Chances are if you are burning coolant its a headgasket.

 

[tstkl]

synthetic oil burns white.... trust me, I know from experience....

 

[lazer103babe]

The engine was rebuilt 6000 miles ago by the person i bought the car from. The car worked/ranned/drove perfect. There was no smoke, no leaks, no anything. When the small 16g blew due to being unbalanced (sucking in a rock) it shot out oil all into the intercooler, intake pipes and exhaust. everything was cleaned and theres no smoke coming from the engine itself, the only place its coming from is the actual muffler tip. The PCV valve is fine (i actually have a catch can hooked up and it remains empty).

im thinking possibly head gasket ?? wouldnt it be overheating though?? the engine temps are right where they should be

 

[lazer103babe]

What does the smoke smell like? If it smells like oil, then you have narrowed it down to the fluid burning. If it smells kinda sweet and is a thick white smoke, you are burning coolant. Chances are if you are burning coolant its a headgasket.

its oil for sure

 

[dieseltech]

I'd recheck the intake system for oil. If there's not oil then I'd remove the exhaust manifold and inspect the exhaust ports for oil. Try to run it without the turbo installed. You'll have to make it so your oil drains into the return pipe and the coolant hoses will need to be spliced together. Run it and inspect for oil coming out of the ports. If it's not then you probably just have oil coating your exhaust. Oil has a very high boiling point and won't just evaporate. Do you still have a catalytic converter? It could have colleced there and is slowly burning off.

 

[Irrational]

The PCV valve is fine (i actually have a catch can hooked up and it remains empty).

your pcv valve goes straight to the intake manifold and you have the catchcan hooked up to the other breather only or what?

 

[just2asian]

Actually I had a buddy that had that same problem when he got his car, it turns out he had to replace the copper ring gaskets on his turbo becuz they were worn. Just a suggestion i am a noob

 

[lazer103babe]

The catch can is connected up to both the pvc valve and the breather vudu style. Last night i actually took a better look at everything and it turns out that my oil return line was about 1/4th blocked on either end so i took care of that, it was leaking past the crush washers on the oil feed line connected to the turbo itself. It was also leaking internally through the turbo.

Yes it does have a cat.

?? If oil was to leak past the seals due to a blocked oil return line, the turbo wouldnt need to be rebuilt would it ??

 

[i1nk83]

It depends, since its brand new i would hope it could take it, but you never know. fix the issues and give it a shot, chances are your not going to mess it up any more than it already is, if you blew the oil seals that is.

 

[EclipseTrbo420A]

The rock you sucked in...where is it? and did you prime the new turbo before you started the car after you put it on?

 

[lazer103babe]

The rock has since disappeared, I did prime the turbo.

The oil/filter are clean, return is not blocked, all fittings are leak free.
I also removed and re-installed the turbo last night just to be sure that oil could flow freely through it, and it could.

When I bought the turbo I ordered it with the upgraded wastegate (38.7mm or something)
I'm assuming something happenned to it inbetween coming from mitsubishi, going through the machineshop at extremepsi, and being installed on my car.

I got in contact with extremepsi and was told to take some pics of it installed and blowing smoke etc. etc. and they would try to get a hold of Mitsubishi for me and try to send me a replacement.

I was told I'd have a response back on monday when they opened.

hopefully they'll send me a new, non-blown turbo ... and pay for the 5 quarts of royal purple and 2 oil filters.

 

[96gsdsm]

Same thing happened to me with my 16g ... bad or faulty rubber seals ... WTF oil just leaked past everything and got EVERYWHERE.

I wish you luck, I'm in WI also If you everr need a hand.

 

[talontsi101]

gee that sucks i just bought a pte scm6152e and I am having a similar prob but mine is too much oil pressure