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soccerpimp09

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Sep 14, 2006
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Ok so my dream car (i could afford) since i could drive was a 2gen GSX eclipse... I NEVER could find one anywhere near here.. so I never got one... I currently have a slightly modded 5.0 mustang.... and the oppertunity has come up to get my dream GSX... My "noob" questions would be... I have the money to buy the car and get left with approx 5-6 grand after purchase... 1) would that be enough to atleast make it faster than my stang is now (just guess LOL i know its impossible without numbers... but opinions are good).. 2) i could mod the mustang with my cash as well, or buy the gsx and mod it... i think the GSX would make a better all around vehicle and wouldnt be AS straight line oriented... people who have a GSX... how's she handle with that AWD? i used to own a 94 LT1 corvette... would it be comparable? ok this is long so the last one... I know how to mod. a car, work on it, etc.. however it seems with DSM's people spend various amounts of money and do very different things in a diffrent order (unlike my stang where everyone does about the same thing) - how far would 5 large take me approximately? (i just want to know if you guys think it'd be worth it, i've always loved the cars, had a need for speed, i love road racing and drag... let me know b/c if i dont get it i'm considering a sportbike LOL) - oh and i'm new here so Hey Im Rob...
Thanks!
 
buy it, then change the timing belt aprox $1200 then bigger turbo +suporting mods. i had a 96 gt and switch to a 98 gst and im sold on the 4 cylinder turbo
 
$1200 hundo for a timing belt, your crazy. The foxbody mustang is a great platform. How can we tell what will make it faster than yours if we dont know how much whp it has and the 1/4 mile time. No way to tell. They handle well but I belive the mustang would be a better track car. Our cars modded are great drag cars and street cars, I think they make better straight line cars than track cars. Also im pretty sure the corvette handled better, I wouldnt compare the two.

I would just build the mustang since you already own it.
 
Foxbodys can be made to handle very well, check out these guys: www.maximummotorsports.com, the are experts in Mustang suspensions...able to outhandle many cars.

The Vette is in another league...a C4 would handle a lot better than a stock Foxbody or a 2G DSM.

In the end, it all depends on what you really want...the 5.0 is the biggest bang for the buck there is, it's really cheap and easy to build a nice all around Fox. Although the DSM's are somewhat easier and cheaper to make to go fast compared to other I4's imports, they are not the same bang for the buck factor as the Mustang.

And about the sportbike...that's a whole different story. Start with something smaller and preferably older if you don't have much riding experience. And buy all your gear.

Hope it helped you a little, I also own a Foxbody Mustang and a GSX :D
 
Well one of my other options was turbo charge my 5.0... b/c i always wanted a turbo'ed vehicle.... i like your advice though, not completely baised like i had figured... thought everyone would say get the GSX LOL - All opinions are appreciated, i'd really just like to see what other people would do in the same/similar situation.... thanks - 5.0's are awesome... i love my car... just hard to turn away from the GSX.. .so sexy.... LOL
 
I could very well do low 11s with $6k. Pop another grand and I can dip in the mid 10s.
 
But we need to remember what hes asking for guys, he doesn't want us to tell him that he can make a fast mustang, he wants to know if its worth buying that gsx and what he could do. Personally I think the the 2g eclipse when done right is one of the best looking cars on the road, and with the correct matinence and mods these things can really get up. With 5 grand you could make a very quick car, not sure what you're looking power wise but you could easily set yourself up with a good exhaust,255,800cc's,link,big turbo of choice,supporting mods. I've had my eclipse for a little over a year and I've never looked back, easily the best investment i've made yet. I think the cool thing about DSM's is that if you take care of your car then you can easily daily drive an 11 second car. Good luck on your endevours in the dsm world and I hope this helped!
 
soccerpimp09 said:
Well one of my other options was turbo charge my 5.0... b/c i always wanted a turbo'ed vehicle....
... just hard to turn away from the GSX.. .so sexy.... LOL
Turbo-ing the 5.0 sounds fun and would be wicked fast. If speed is the only consideration, then the 5.0 is a no brainer. But as you mentioned, DSM's are sexy. And there is something to be said when you can run 10 secs in a 4 cyl.

Personally, I'd buy the GSX, keep it stock and then turbo the stang. Best of both worlds.
After a while if you really like the GSX, you can always dump more money into it. Then you have a fast track car and really cool daily driver.
 
dr1ftx3 said:
I think the cool thing about DSM's is that if you take care of your car then you can easily daily drive an 11 second car. Good luck on your endevours in the dsm world and I hope this helped!
10-second DSMs can be very daily driveable too. :thumb:
 
With 5-6 grand...keep your foxbody and buy the Pro Turbo Kits Turbo Kit for it : ) You will not regret it. On the other hand, if you are looking into good handling, they can handle very well with some minor suspension.
 
I personally would say get the GSX of course Im all about DSMs, and EVOs...anything with a 4G63 powerplant. I love my DSM it may not be an AWD, but I have riden(sp?) in one with struts, and front and rear strut tower bars, and the thing handled like it was on rails, plus its alway fun to here the excuses when you beat a 6cyl or v8, and you tell them its a 4cyl. If I were you with it I would go the GSX, build the internals up, get a BB 50 trim, DSMLink, logger, 950cc injectors, wally 255, AFPR, ACT 2900, an ACT fly, or SBR custom spec. fly, boost guage, MBC, hard intake pipe, filter, FMIC, 38mm Tial external wastegate, evo 3 manifold, o2 housing, 3" exhaust, and cams, also have the main bearings custom made to match your crank so CW wont be a problem, this is way over rated part of 7-bolts. Also I would check out the meth injection kits from Snowperformance, or cooling mist. The 2Gb GSXs are dead sexy IMO, and with decent 17" rims, strut tower bars, larger sway bars, and with a nice set of coil over it will handle awsome. Also extrude hone the intake manifold, get larger wires, and upgrade the plugs to NGK BPR7ESs or 8s. Thats what I personally would do, hope it helps.

Dustin
 
i vote.. get the GSX.. but get a 1g. yes they dont look AS good as the 2g's but ive owned a 2g. and now that i own a 1g its all different.. i miss the looks.. but 1g's are better powerplants with the 6bolts. and 2g's you have to worrie about CW and trust me. i went thru that also.. its not kool at all. what a waste of a good motor. also you can pick up a 1g for less then 3k in decent running order.. drop your 5-6k into that motor and suspen. and have a very quick car... makein ez 350awhp+ depending on your set up and turbo of your choice.

if you go 2g. you will spend somewhere in the ballpark range of 8-12k for a good condition GSX and in the range of 4-6k for a GST and then you start moddin your motor. then BAM CW hits.. and all that hard work, sweat, blood, money GONE just like that..
oh the other hand.. if you have money to throw around.. get your self a 2g.GSX and get ahold of a 6bolt throw that sucker in there and be done with it.. modd away and have no worries of CW.. and remember.. remember.. remember.. keep up on maint. on that car.. they require ALOT and that car isnt very forgiving if your forget or dont have time.

well i hope my .02 helped you any. ive owned a 2g GST and a 1g GSX
 
it's not really gone... most people see it as the opportunity to put in a rebuilt 6-bolt. then you get the best of both! anyway, though CW does happen it's not as large a percentage as people fear it to be. i'm sorry if it did happen to you though
 
i disagree with some of the above. I would say that the gsx could outhandle the vette. I have a Talon TSi AWD, and a 99 camaro z28 (12.9 1/4) And they are night and day... Ive also driven a few fwd's... and the feeling with an AWD is just different.

With the camaro (315 drag radials, & excellent suspension) the back end will still come out. Around turns and even under excelleration... Your not going to get that with the AWD. Get in and drive one, the feeling is amazing! Your not being pulled (fwd) or pushed (rwd) the car just moves, i cant explain it, but its a great feeling. And you will notice a HUGE difference in the turns, it grips... and grips and grips. I havent taken the talon to the autocross yet, but driving it on the street just feels really safe. Im not worried about anything when taking pretty hard turns, compaired to the camaro's rear coming out. (Im sure you know how that is with the 5.0). And thats still stock suspension! The double wishbone it great.

As far as should you mod one over the other... It just depends on what YOU want. They both can be very sexy, fast, and can both handle well. And asking a DSM board to do one or the other is a little biast. I would get both, do a little work on each. Have a quick DD (the talon) and a race whore. Or atleast thats my plan. All i have to do now is drop a rear mounted turbo on the camaro and its set (600hp medium tune on the stock motor)...
 
I've never been much of a Fox body fan, but I do know that they can be very fast. It also depends on how much they're asking for the GSX... What year is it? Whats the mileage like? Is it completely stock? 5-speed? Pictures? Let us know so we can tell you if it's a good deal? Personally, I'm going with the biast opinion that I'd take the GSX, but if I were you, I'd listen to the guys on here that have owned/own both.
 
I'm biased to the GSX. My cousin had a 97 mustang 5.0. He beat the shit outta that thing and it gave me a new-found respect for ford. He sold it and bought a 02' subaru impreza wrx. hope that helps.

-Curtis
 
Well.. to the dude above... the 5.0 didnt get put into a mustang since 95.. so i believe u are off on a number... ford switched to modular 4.6 in 96 and since... also.. the GSX has an asking price of 6k... cheaper than i've seen before... makes me wonder??? i dont know the miles but the guy has done alot of work on it.. it needs some cosmetics though... i will try and send some pics ASAP, thanks guys
 
I have a supercharged 91 lx and 95 gsx. Different cars in my opinion. I daily drive the gsx and take the stang to the track. I mod both, light mods for the gsx as it's a daily driver and more drag mods for the stang. Both in my opinion are high maintenance vehicles, but if done correctly are blasts to drive and own. I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
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