JDM 4g63 engine swap

[wheelznorth_jim]

My engine in my 1998 eclipse gsx tooka dirt nap.

I bought an engine from jdmaddiction on ebay, and I am running into some install issues.

can someone please help.

1) quite a few wires have different ends, does anyone have a JDM wiring diagram ?

2) The engine I bought was listed as a drop in for 95-99 eclipses. if so, why does it not have the cam sensor on the passenger side of the engine?

3) The turbos are different


please, anyone give me a hand here....

 

[diablos991]

3) The turbos are was different

Maybe they sent you an engine from a 1g. Is the turbo a 14b?

 

[wheelznorth_jim]

the turbo outlet comes out the top of the turbo instead of the bottom.

also, the intake is way different as far as vaccum hoses and such

on the throttle body, the throttle linkage is on the front of the intake instead of facing the firewall.


I'll post pictures later....

 

[Ultimatedsm]

Search 1g in a 2g. You most likely got the 1G motor which has the 14B. You will get a lot of answers because this has been discussed a million times over.

 

[DROOPY209]

You might have received a 1g 4g63T with the Cyclone intake manifold.

 

[wheelznorth_jim]

this doesn't change the fact that this is what I bought.....

JDM ADDICTION LOCATED IN OCALA, FL. HAS FOR SALE:

Mitsubishi Eclipse/Talon 4G63 T Eng/Trans AWD 5spd 95-99 2G

PARTS INCLUDED:

-Engine,5spd Transmission,Turbo Alt,PS,Sensors,Manifolds,

So if it is a 1G engine, they screwed me, and my mechanic is gonna be ticked....

 

[diablos991]

Maybe they pulled it from a 95-99 that had a 6-bolt swap and they didn't know.

 

[keymaster]

Did they specifically say it was a 7-bolt motor? If not, they didn't screw you, you just didn't ask the right questions. Putting in a 6-bolt is anything but difficult. A little trimming of a motor mount, a little wiring, and you're done. Does the intake manifold say "Cyclone" on it?

 

[Lordpaxin]

you are better off.

take a little extra time, and mabye a few more labor $'s

but your better off.

unless you paid more than value for the 2g. motor

 

[turbodsm18]

you got a 6bolt instead of a 7bolt.....Lucky

 

[GVR4592]

Take a picture of the engine, I don't think it's a 6 bolt. It's probably an Evo 3 engine.

 

[wheelznorth_jim]

here is the pic of the engine

 

[wheelznorth_jim]

more pics since the forums wont let me upload

http://www.dawsondigitaldesign.com/ftp/edit2.jpg
http://www.dawsondigitaldesign.com/ftp/edit3.jpg
http://www.dawsondigitaldesign.com/ftp/edit4.jpg
http://www.dawsondigitaldesign.com/ftp/edit5.jpg

the edit 3 link is a pic of the old valve cover with the intake

edit 4 and 5 are comparing the new turbo with the old

Sorry for my ignorance guys.... I am new at this.

Thanks for all of the help


JD

 

[Ultimatedsm]

Can you please take a picture of the turbo on the motor. Take the pictures of the compressor or the fan thing in the turbo whatever you want to call it. I have a feeling you might have that rare EVOIII motor.

 

[kawboy]

How much did you pay for it?

 

[Ced]

to me it look like a motor from a evo3 because of the coil

 

[Ultimatedsm]

The 95-96 DSM's don't have a Cam Angle Sensor, but Crank Angle Sensor. I believe there is a diaghram on www.roadraceengineering.com about this when you look in the 1g in a 2g.

 

[diablos991]

By no means do I have any experience with these, but I thought I would throw this out there and hope that somebody that knows will be able to tell....... GVR-4 Engine? Just a guess.

 

[wheelznorth_jim]

http://www.dawsondigitaldesign.com/ftp/edit6.jpg


Here is a pic of the turbo that came installed on the new engine.

I gave 1800.00 shipping incl. for the engine and tranny

 

[keymaster]

That's a 13G off of an auto trans car, odd.

 

[perley03]

13g? "JDM" motor with a 13g? something just doesnt add up here....little fishy to me

 

[keymaster]

What doesn't add up? The 4G63's in Japan used a 13g on their auto cars just like they did here. What's so confusing? I bought a JDM motor for my swap and it had a flex-plate and a 13g on it.

 

[wheelznorth_jim]

ok... so my new engine doesn't have a cam angle sensor on the left of the valve cover. Can I swap the one from my old engine in?

 

[keymaster]

Yup. Just pull out the little black plug. Depending on the cams that are in there, the intake cam might need to be tapped for it. Or you could just swap over your old cams.

 

[Scott_S]

The 95-96 DSM's don't have a Cam Angle Sensor, but Crank Angle Sensor. I believe there is a diaghram on www.roadraceengineering.com about this when you look in the 1g in a 2g.

Not true. In 2ga's the cam sensor sits behind the intake cam gear