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08-30-2012, 05:04 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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no oil on dipstick
Before anyone gets the idea that I don't know how to add oil when there's none on the stick, don't think it. Was driving home yesterday because I left work for being sick, and the spyder shut down on the highway. It cranked, but wouldn't start up again. Turned out to be a wire connector. However, I checked my oil and there was none on the dipstick. Even though I know the oil pressure gauge isn't accurate, it did read good pressure. There are no oil leaks on my engine at all, and I know for damn surely I put oil in it before dropping the engine back in the car. Anyone have ideas to this issue? I did a search but couldn't end useful info. Thanks.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
Last edited by spyderdrifter; 09-03-2012 at 10:27 PM.
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08-30-2012, 05:12 AM
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From: Uniontown, Ohio
Registered: Nov 2007
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Soooo.... Top it off and continue to monitor it for a while to see if it continues to use oil. If there is nothing on the stick, you'll be safe starting with a quart and hopefully that is enough to get it up where it needs to be. Good luck.
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-Matt Graves-
soon to be HX40 powered....
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08-30-2012, 05:15 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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Yeah, I did fill it up, and watching progression now. Just weird that its gone. Thanks.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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08-30-2012, 05:28 AM
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From: Uniontown, Ohio
Registered: Nov 2007
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Yeah, only way to lose it is to leak it, or burn it.  Piston rings, valve stem seals, and turbo seals are the main areas of concern for burning/using oil.
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-Matt Graves-
soon to be HX40 powered....
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08-30-2012, 05:44 AM
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DSM Wiseman

From: New Cumberland, Pennsylvania
Registered: Sep 2008
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When you park it consider putting newspaper or card board down to visually spot leaks easier.
You're can also get some one to drive behind you and monitor your exhaust under different conditions to see if it is smoking.
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08-30-2012, 06:11 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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Yeah. One of my friends, who's a member on here, mentioned the cardboard idea. Just haven't done it yet. I thought about having someone follow me, but got moons that would be able to keep ip when I get on the throttle.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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08-30-2012, 06:21 AM
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From: IE, California
Registered: Jun 2008
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did you do a motor swap recently? do you have the correct dipstick?
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-Adam.
2G poly roll stops, solid sub-frame and diff bushings, Holset turbos and custom turbine housings
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08-30-2012, 06:28 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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I did a complete rebuild. 7-bolt engine. I do have the correct dipstick. Had to buy a new one, old one was broken.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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08-30-2012, 06:51 AM
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DSM Wiseman

From: New Cumberland, Pennsylvania
Registered: Sep 2008
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They don't need to keep up nor should you need to be speeding to check for burning oil.
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08-30-2012, 07:08 AM
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DSM Revival

From: Roebuck, South Carolina
Registered: Jun 2011
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if it was a fresh build then it probably burned it if it didn't leak it. During the time it took for the rings to seat properly though thats at least 1 1/2 2 quarts. you think if it burned you would know.
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08-30-2012, 07:10 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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Yeah. I haven't seen any kind of smoke since I've been actively driving it. Got 400 miles on it now.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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08-30-2012, 07:25 AM
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DSM Wiseman

From: Black Forest, Colorado
Registered: Jun 2011
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What break-in method did you use? I went with something like Motoman and burnt/used a good half quart in the first 30 min. But otherwise I only need a small top-off between changes thanks to the piston/ring specs. So like others are saying, just make sure its not leaking or burning excessively.
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-Wes M
16g/E85- 12.7@108
H1E/E85- 13.2@105
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08-30-2012, 07:32 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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I've driven it pretty much like described on Motoman's web page. I don't think I'm capable of prolonged easy driving. Too many retarded drivers out there to be stuck behind.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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08-30-2012, 08:14 AM
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DSM Wiseman

From: Black Forest, Colorado
Registered: Jun 2011
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Originally Posted by spyderdrifter
I've driven it pretty much like described on Motoman's web page. I don't think I'm capable of prolonged easy driving. Too many retarded drivers out there to be stuck behind.
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 I don't think people know what "defensive driving" is till they live in Colorado Springs.
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-Wes M
16g/E85- 12.7@108
H1E/E85- 13.2@105
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08-30-2012, 08:15 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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I couldn't agree more on that ^
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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08-30-2012, 08:42 AM
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Proven Member

From: Roswell, New Mexico
Registered: Jun 2012
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I doubt that much oil would be burnt on break in. Have you gotten under the car and checked for leaks on the oil pan or valve cover, oil return line? Thats where i wouldve started. Hope you fogure this problem out quick
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08-30-2012, 09:04 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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Yes, I have looked at each of those areas. Still nothing.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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08-30-2012, 09:46 AM
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From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: Jun 2011
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I couldn't agree more on that ^
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Hey now, we have our fair share of retards here in Denver too! We get people that tailgate 2-3 feet behind your bumper, then when you left them around you they drive 5 under the speed limit.
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08-30-2012, 09:50 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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Ha ha ha... I've been through that before. I was told by a co-worker who lives up there that traffic isn't too bad. I find it hard to believe since Denver's the capital.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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08-30-2012, 09:55 AM
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From: Ames, Iowa
Registered: Aug 2012
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May check the oil filter, this happend on an old car of mine. I changed the oil and the seal on the filter was bad and it leaked it all out.
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09-03-2012, 10:20 PM
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From: perris, California
Registered: Sep 2012
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hay you should checked your turbo was it also replace when you rebuild you engine you just might be pushing oil out of the turbo
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09-03-2012, 10:26 PM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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My turbo wasn't replaced during my rebuild. I have done an oil change and everything is back to normal.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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09-03-2012, 10:39 PM
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From: poughkeepsie, New York
Registered: Jan 2011
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on a new build oil has to fill everything like the filter and the oil cooler. normal for it to be low and need to be topped off. since you did an oil change just keep an eye on it.
also spend the 50 bucks and get a real oil pressure gauge
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09-03-2012, 10:50 PM
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Supporting Member

Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
Registered: Jul 2009
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The oil pressure gauge will come in time. I have other little replacement parts I need to get first. I'm in no way blowing off the thought of getting that gauge, along with other 'more accurate than stock' gauges, but other parts have to come first unfortunately.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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