Update:New logs please help

[93_GEE_ES_EX]

Thanks alot madman for helping me upload them.


First log is a 2nd to 3rd gear pull.25psi on pump 93.I'm going to lower back to 20psi.
The second log is a 3rd gear pull.Same boost.

					
RPM	Knock	Timing	O2	Inj P/W	Inj D/C
1813	0	23	0.86	3.85	5.82
1844	0	23	0.88	3.85	5.92
1906	0	24	0.88	3.85	6.12
1938	0	24	0.88	3.85	6.22
1969	0	25	0.9	3.85	6.32
2000	0	24	0.88	4.1	6.83
2031	0	22	0.84	1.28	2.17
2063	0	15	0.92	6.41	11.02
2125	0	15	0.94	6.67	11.81
2188	0	15	0.94	6.67	12.16
2219	0	15	0.94	6.67	12.33
2313	0	15	0.94	6.67	12.86
2313	0	16	0.94	6.92	13.34
2375	0	15	0.94	6.92	13.7
2469	0	15	0.94	6.92	14.24
2500	0	15	0.92	6.92	14.42
2594	4	14	0.94	6.92	14.96
2625	4	16	0.92	7.18	15.71
2719	4	15	0.92	7.44	16.86
2781	4	15	0.92	7.95	18.42
2844	4	14	0.92	8.2	19.43
2938	3	16	0.94	8.2	20.08
3000	3	16	0.92	8.46	21.15
3031	3	17	0.92	8.72	22.03
3125	3	16	0.92	8.97	23.36
3250	3	16	0.92	9.49	25.7
3313	2	15	0.92	10	27.61
3344	2	14	0.92	10.26	28.59
3469	2	14	0.92	10.77	31.13
3531	2	15	0.92	11.54	33.96
3563	2	15	0.92	12.05	35.78
3719	1	16	0.92	12.82	39.73
3750	1	16	0.92	13.59	42.47
3906	1	16	0.92	14.61	47.56
3906	1	17	0.92	14.61	47.56
4063	1	17	0.9	14.87	50.35
4125	1	17	0.9	15.13	52.01
4250	1	17	0.9	15.38	54.47
4344	0	18	0.88	15.64	56.62
4469	4	16	0.88	15.64	58.25
4625	4	16	0.88	15.9	61.28
4656	4	17	0.86	15.9	61.69
4875	4	17	0.86	15.9	64.59
4969	4	17	0.86	15.9	65.84
5125	4	18	0.84	15.9	67.91
5250	3	20	0.84	15.9	69.56
5438	3	21	0.84	15.9	72.05
5625	3	22	0.84	15.9	74.53
5750	3	22	0.84	15.9	76.19
5969	3	23	0.82	15.64	77.8
6063	3	22	0.8	15.9	80.33
6250	3	22	0.8	15.9	82.81
6375	2	20	0.82	15.9	84.47
6625	2	19	0.8	15.9	87.78
6656	2	18	0.8	15.9	88.19
6844	2	18	0.8	15.9	90.68
6906	2	17	0.75	0	0
6344	2	36	0.76	0	0
6031	0	45	0.9	1.79	9
5813	0	45	0.67	1.54	7.46
5375	0	45	0.61	1.54	6.9
4938	0	45	0.49	1.54	6.34
4625	0	44	0.67	1.54	5.94
4281	0	42	0.71	5.38	19.19
4594	0	27	0.63	8.46	32.39
4813	0	21	0.88	10.51	42.15
4438	0	18	0.86	11.28	41.72
4625	1	17	0.86	12.05	46.44
4469	1	17	0.8	12.56	46.78
4469	1	17	0.84	13.33	49.64
4625	1	17	0.76	13.85	53.38
4500	0	18	0.82	14.87	55.76
4500	0	18	0.82	15.64	58.65
4625	0	18	0.78	15.64	60.28
4438	0	18	0.8	15.64	57.84
4594	0	18	0.73	15.64	59.88
4594	0	18	0.76	15.64	59.88
4500	0	18	0.82	15.64	58.65
4625	0	18	0.76	15.9	61.28
4406	0	18	0.82	15.64	57.42
4750	0	18	0.78	15.64	61.91
4656	0	18	0.84	15.9	61.69
4688	0	19	0.88	15.9	62.12
4625	0	18	0.86	15.9	61.28
4781	0	19	0.86	15.9	63.35
4719	0	19	0.86	15.9	62.53
4750	0	19	0.86	15.9	62.94
4906	0	19	0.84	15.9	65
4938	0	19	0.86	15.9	65.43
4969	0	19	0.84	15.9	65.84
5094	0	19	0.84	15.9	67.5
5094	0	20	0.84	15.9	67.5
5188	0	20	0.84	15.9	68.74
5281	0	21	0.84	15.9	69.97
5344	0	21	0.84	15.9	70.81
5344	0	21	0.84	15.9	70.81
5438	0	22	0.84	15.9	72.05
5500	0	22	0.84	15.9	72.88
5625	0	22	0.84	15.9	74.53
5594	4	21	0.84	15.9	74.12
5750	3	19	0.82	15.9	76.19
5781	10	19	0.82	15.9	76.6
5781	10	20	0.82	15.9	76.6
5906	10	20	0.82	15.9	78.25
6000	10	20	0.82	15.9	79.5
6031	10	20	0.82	15.9	79.91
6156	9	20	0.82	15.9	81.57
6188	9	18	0.82	15.9	81.99
6250	9	18	0.82	15.9	82.81
6250	9	18	0.8	15.9	82.81
6344	9	18	0.8	15.9	84.06
6406	9	18	0.8	15.9	84.88
6500	8	18	0.8	15.9	86.13
6531	8	17	0.8	15.9	86.54
6594	8	17	0.8	15.9	87.37
6656	8	16	0.8	15.9	88.19
6719	8	16	0.82	5.38	30.12
6313	8	27	0.63	0	0
6375	7	42	0.78	0	0
6156	0	45	0.88	1.79	9.18
5844	0	45	0.69	1.54	7.5
5500	0	45	0.65	1.54	7.06
5094	0	45	0.59	1.54	6.54
4781	0	44	0.41	1.28	5.1
4438	0	43	0.69	1.28	4.73
4125	0	41	0.75	1.28	4.4
3875	0	41	0.71	0	0
3625	0	27	0.76	0	0
3469	0	27	0.76	0	0
3219	0	26	0.2	0	0
3031	0	26	0.04	0	0
2781	0	25	0.02	0	0

 2/25/00-20:33:36 - GFMS						
Time	RPM	Knock	Timing	O2	Inj P/W	Inj D/C
00:00.1	2469	0	19	0.8	4.87	10.02
00:00.2	2500	0	19	0.75	4.87	10.15
00:00.3	2531	0	19	0.75	6.67	14.07
00:00.4	2563	0	19	0.9	6.67	14.25
00:00.6	2594	0	19	0.92	6.67	14.42
00:00.7	2625	0	18	0.9	7.18	15.71
00:00.8	2625	0	14	0.9	7.69	16.82
00:00.9	2719	0	14	0.94	7.69	17.42
00:01.0	2813	0	16	0.92	7.95	18.64
00:01.1	2719	0	16	0.92	7.95	18.01
00:01.2	2750	0	16	0.92	8.2	18.79
00:01.3	2781	0	15	0.92	8.46	19.61
00:01.5	2813	0	15	0.92	8.97	21.03
00:01.6	2875	0	14	0.92	8.97	21.49
00:01.7	2906	0	14	0.92	9.49	22.98
00:01.8	2938	0	15	0.92	9.49	23.23
00:01.9	2938	0	15	0.92	9.49	23.23
00:02.0	3000	0	15	0.92	10	25
00:02.1	3063	0	15	0.92	10	25.53
00:02.3	3094	0	15	0.92	10.26	26.45
00:02.4	3125	0	15	0.92	10.51	27.37
00:02.5	3156	0	15	0.92	10.77	28.33
00:02.6	3219	0	14	0.92	11.03	29.59
00:02.7	3250	0	15	0.92	11.28	30.55
00:02.8	3281	0	15	0.92	11.54	31.55
00:03.0	3313	0	15	0.92	11.79	32.55
00:03.1	3344	0	15	0.92	12.31	34.3
00:03.2	3406	0	15	0.92	12.82	36.39
00:03.3	3438	0	15	0.92	13.08	37.47
00:03.4	3469	0	15	0.92	13.59	39.29
00:03.5	3531	0	15	0.92	14.1	41.49
00:03.7	3594	0	16	0.92	14.61	43.76
00:03.8	3656	0	16	0.9	14.61	44.51
00:03.9	3656	0	16	0.9	14.61	44.51
00:04.0	3688	0	17	0.9	14.61	44.9
00:04.1	3750	0	17	0.9	14.61	45.66
00:04.2	3844	0	17	0.88	14.61	46.8
00:04.3	3906	0	17	0.88	14.61	47.56
00:04.4	4000	0	18	0.88	14.61	48.7
00:04.5	4063	0	18	0.88	14.87	50.35
00:04.5	4094	0	18	0.88	14.87	50.73
00:04.6	4188	0	18	0.86	14.87	51.9
00:04.7	4188	0	18	0.86	15.13	52.8
00:04.8	4281	0	18	0.86	15.38	54.87
00:04.8	4313	0	18	0.86	15.38	55.28
00:04.9	4375	0	18	0.86	15.38	56.07
00:05.0	4406	0	18	0.86	15.64	57.42
00:05.1	4500	0	18	0.86	15.64	58.65
00:05.1	4531	0	18	0.86	15.64	59.05
00:05.2	4625	0	18	0.86	15.64	60.28
00:05.3	4656	0	18	0.84	15.9	61.69
00:05.4	4719	0	18	0.84	15.9	62.53
00:05.5	4813	0	19	0.84	15.9	63.77
00:05.5	4813	0	19	0.84	15.9	63.77
00:05.6	4844	0	19	0.84	15.9	64.18
00:05.7	5000	0	19	0.84	15.9	66.25
00:05.8	5031	0	19	0.84	15.9	66.66
00:05.9	5063	0	20	0.84	15.9	67.08
00:05.9	5094	0	20	0.84	15.9	67.5
00:06.0	5156	0	20	0.84	15.9	68.32
00:06.1	5281	0	21	0.84	15.9	69.97
00:06.2	5406	0	21	0.84	15.9	71.63
00:06.3	5375	0	21	0.82	15.9	71.22
00:06.4	5438	1	21	0.82	15.9	72.05
00:06.4	5469	8	19	0.82	15.9	72.46
00:06.5	5563	7	20	0.82	15.9	73.71
00:06.6	5625	7	20	0.82	15.9	74.53
00:06.7	5688	7	20	0.82	15.9	75.37
00:06.8	5781	7	20	0.82	15.9	76.6
00:06.9	5813	7	20	0.82	15.9	77.02
00:07.0	5938	7	21	0.82	15.64	77.39
00:07.1	6063	7	21	0.82	15.9	80.33
00:07.2	6031	6	22	0.82	15.64	78.6
00:07.3	6063	6	21	0.8	15.9	80.33
00:07.4	6094	6	21	0.8	15.9	80.75
00:07.5	6219	6	20	0.8	15.9	82.4
00:07.6	6281	6	20	0.8	15.9	83.22
00:07.7	6375	6	19	0.8	15.9	84.47
00:07.8	6469	5	19	0.8	15.9	85.71
00:07.9	6500	5	18	0.8	15.9	86.13
00:08.0	6563	5	18	0.8	15.9	86.96
00:08.1	6594	5	17	0.8	0	0
00:08.2	6344	5	34	0.8	0	0
00:08.3	6188	0	45	0.9	0	0
00:08.4	5969	0	45	0.78	1.79	8.9
00:08.5	5594	0	45	0.63	1.54	7.18
00:08.6	5156	0	45	0.61	1.54	6.62
00:08.8	4781	0	44	0.55	1.54	6.14
00:08.9	4500	0	44	0.76	1.54	5.78
00:09.0	4906	0	45	0.8	1.79	7.32
00:09.1	4844	0	45	0.88	2.05	8.28
00:09.3	4813	0	44	0.88	2.31	9.27
00:09.4	4813	0	44	0.9	2.31	9.27
00:09.5	4781	0	44	0.82	1.54	6.14
00:09.6	4813	0	45	0.59	1.54	6.18
00:09.7	4656	0	44	0.67	1.28	4.97
00:09.8	4375	0	43	0.71	1.28	4.67
00:10.0	4125	0	41	0.73	1.28	4.4
00:10.1	3875	0	41	0.65	1.54	4.97
00:10.2	3625	0	40	0.65	0	0
00:10.3	3438	0	27	0.75	0	0
00:10.4	3219	0	26	0.67	0	0
00:10.5	3000	0	26	0.1	0	0
00:10.6	2813	0	25	0.02	0	0
00:10.7	2594	0	25	0.02	0	0
00:10.8	2375	0	25	0.02	0	0
00:10.9	2188	0	24	0.02	0	0
00:11.0	1969	0	22	0.02	0	0
00:11.1	1813	0	17	0.02	0	0
00:11.2	1594	0	13	0.02	0	0
00:11.3	1438	0	10	0.02	0	0
00:11.3	1250	0	8	0.02	2.05	2.14
00:11.4	1063	0	16	0.02	2.31	2.05
00:11.5	969	0	20	0.02	2.31	1.87
00:11.6	1031	0	23	0.02	2.31	1.98
00:11.7	1125	0	26	0.02	2.31	2.17
00:11.8	1125	0	25	0.04	2.31	2.17
00:11.9	1156	0	20	0.63	2.31	2.23
00:12.0	1156	0	18	0.78	2.56	2.47
00:12.1	1188	0	21	0.82	2.56	2.53
00:12.2	1313	0	25	0.84	2.82	3.09
00:12.3	1469	0	19	0.86	2.56	3.13
00:12.4	1531	0	19	0.88	2.31	2.95
00:12.5	1563	0	19	0.9	2.31	3.01
00:12.6	1594	0	19	0.9	2.05	2.72
00:12.7	1594	1	21	0.9	2.05	2.72
00:12.8	1625	0	23	0.9	2.05	2.78
00:12.9	1594	0	25	0.88	2.05	2.72
00:12.9	1563	0	13	0.88	0	0
00:13.0	1531	0	12	0.88	0	0
00:13.1	1375	0	8	0.8	0	0
00:13.2	1188	0	8	0.29	2.05	2.03
00:13.3	1031	0	21	0.04	2.31	1.98
00:13.4	1031	0	23	0.02	2.31	1.98
00:13.5	1125	0	25	0.02	2.31	2.17
00:13.6	1156	0	21	0.02	2.31	2.23
00:13.7	1188	0	19	0.61	2.31	2.29
00:13.8	1188	0	18	0.8	2.31	2.29
00:13.9	1188	0	19	0.86	2.31	2.29
00:14.0	1156	0	21	0.88	2.31	2.23
00:14.1	1156	0	20	0.88	2.31	2.23
00:14.2	1125	0	21	0.88	2.31	2.17
00:14.2	1125	0	21	0.88	2.31	2.17
00:14.3	1156	0	20	0.88	2.31	2.23
00:14.4	1125	0	19	0.88	2.31	2.17
00:14.5	1125	0	19	0.88	2.31	2.17
00:14.6	1125	0	18	0.88	2.31	2.17
00:14.7	1094	0	20	0.88	2.31	2.11
00:14.8	1125	0	18	0.88	2.31	2.17
00:14.9	1094	0	19	0.88	2.31	2.11
00:15.0	1125	0	18	0.88	2.31	2.17

[93_GEE_ES_EX]

Anyone?

[Staytuned]

Too much timing. 20 degrees is alot for pump gas you should be around 17 degrees at the end off the pull, not at 20 around 5000. That timing is giving you lots of knock you don't want.

[1990EclipseGSX]

Looks like you are knocking quite a bit in those logs. What are your S-AFC settings at?

[93_GEE_ES_EX]

What do you mean settings?

[Staytuned]

He means the high settings on your SAFC what % are you taking out?

[93_GEE_ES_EX]

oops sorry forgot about this..

1k +3%
1400 +5%
2k +9%
2400 +1%
3k -4%
4k +5%
4400 +8%
5k +7%
5400 +9%
6k +8%
6400 +7%
7k +7%

[93_GEE_ES_EX]

Any help?

[CanadianTSi]

Chnage the settings on the Maf-t so you don't have to add fuel with the S-AFC, your making the car see too much air hence the high timing.

[93_GEE_ES_EX]

Change it to what?

[madman]

Originally Posted by 93_GEE_ES_EX

Any help?

Hey Alex,

I just stumbled onto this thread looking for ideas for myslef.......

I'm surprised no one said that you look like you are waaaay to lean in the top end.

I think .88 is good, I guess you can get away with .86 since you are runing 93 ocatane.

Try adding fuel anywhere you go below .86 and see if that helps your knock.

Going for .88 might keep the timing a little lower too.

[daren_p]

Originally Posted by madman

Hey Alex,

I just stumbled onto this thread looking for ideas for myslef.......

I'm surprised no one said that you look like you are waaaay to lean in the top end.

I think .88 is good, I guess you can get away with .86 since you are runing 93 ocatane.

Try adding fuel anywhere you go below .86 and see if that helps your knock.

Going for .88 might keep the timing a little lower too.

NB readings as you no aren't very accurate to compare from one car to another. You also have to remember that he is a 1g and their NB O2 voltage readings are less then 2g's. But I would start with CanadianTSI's advise, try to get your timing advance down abit & go from there.

[madman]

Originally Posted by daren_p

NB readings as you no aren't very accurate to compare from one car to another. You also have to remember that he is a 1g and their NB O2 voltage readings are less then 2g's. But I would start with CanadianTSI's advise, try to get your timing advance down abit & go from there.

Ya, I thought 2g's are .92-.94 and 1g's are .86-90 depending on octane.

He had a spot where he wen't down to .80..... that's pretty lean for a 1g isn't it?

[dnhieu]

i try to keep it around .89v he is way lean. but if he keeps adding fuel isnt the ecu is gonna keep throwing timing advance into the mix???