GC coilovers w/ konis OR Tein SS coilovers

[Slappster]

This setup will be for a 2g awd. Since the gc's and konis are nearly $900 I could spend the same amount for Tein super street dampers. I'm leaning towards the teins but would just like to hear some opinouns. So let me know what you guys think.

 

[KRAZYKOREAN]

Ummm Teins...Duh

 

[1LE]

I've heard the the Teins are better. I have GC/Koni since that is all that was available when the suspension was done on my car No complaints...

 

[eclipse13]

is there a difference between the koni red and the koni yellows??

 

[mocfive]

THe koni reds are a little cheeper and are not adjustable. I believe the yellows are the adjustable ones.

 

[1LE]

Red is kinda the "direct replacement" for stock. Mild upgrade. Yellow are the good adjustable ones

 

[Slappster]

Can the sdfc be used with the ss or just the flex?

 

[wret]

I believe just the flex. This is a very cool option but realistically, once you have them dialed in, who's going to change them often? The Transporter maybe.

 

[cait sith]

Go with Koni. They're frankly better than the Tein SS setup, as far as ease of getting them re-valved for stiffer springs, plus you can pretty much run any standard spring on the Ground Controls, like Hypercoils or something like that.

Tein SS are a very entry-level coilover made for DUMPY BOYZE RACING street cars, and frankly, they're not very compareable to Koni/GC's. I don't even know why anyone would bother with Tein other than the FLEX system, which, IMHO, is pretty weak, especially compared to something like JIC's FLT-A2's, which are pretty much just under going full professional, unstreetable suspension setups.

So if you want to impress friends with your l33t JDM Coilovers, go Tein, but if you actually want performance, go Koni/GC.

Edit: And you can get a set of Koni's serviced at a hell of a lot more places than you can with Tein's SS series. You know, like at *real* race shops, not having to mail them back to Tein, if SS's are even revalveable (I don't think they are).

 

[igs]

Originally posted by cait sith
FLEX system, which, IMHO, is pretty weak, especially compared to something like JIC's FLT-A2's

How is the FLT-A2 better than the FLEX?

 

[MaineDSM]

Originally posted by wret
I believe just the flex. This is a very cool option but realistically, once you have them dialed in, who's going to change them often? The Transporter maybe.

BwaaaHaaaa Haaa. Now THAT was funny. Except for the fact that lots of us DSM'ers run around with hot Azn babes, kicking ass.

From what I've heard, Tein is very high quality stuff. It doesn't have any of the rattles that the Ground Controls have. Over on the DSMtalk, there is one guy who switched from Koni Yellows/GC setup to Tein SS, and is *VERY* happy with the switch, saying how his Konis blew out on him a couple of times, and rattled a lot.

I am personally going to spend the extra on the Tein FLEX setup, but saying the Super Streets are only for riceboys is talking out of your ass. Many people have had good success with them. The FICs are nice too, but not a lot nicer than the Teins.

 

[cait sith]

Originally posted by igs


How is the FLT-A2 better than the FLEX?

Fully adjustable shock bodies make a difference to you? 8" of adjustment range?

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/jicinfo.htm

That clear enough?

Oh, and it's pretty much pointless to buy any suspension system for the 2G eclipse without getting new pillow-ball upper mounts, given how crappy the stock upper mounts are.

I will be happy to admit that Tein makes very high quality stuff, but IMO, the stuff that's for general consumption for the DSM isn't really worth it when you can spend a bit more and get a setup like what JIC offers, unless they start building the more compareable series for DSM's, like what ArticTsi had built for his 1G.

 

[Slappster]

Now this is what I was looking for in this thread. Different opinouns so I can see other options.

 

[Slappster]

With the edfc I know it adjust the damping but does it also adjust the height?

 

[igs]

Originally posted by cait sith

Fully adjustable shock bodies make a difference to you? 8" of adjustment range?

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/jicinfo.htm

That clear enough?

The FLEX has adjustable shock body, adjustable spring perch, 16-way double adjustable damping/rebound.

Oh, and it's pretty much pointless to buy any suspension system for the 2G eclipse without getting new pillow-ball upper mounts, given how crappy the stock upper mounts are.

The FLEX comes with aluminum upper pillowball mounts.

I will be happy to admit that Tein makes very high quality stuff

So I ask again, how is the FLT-A2 better than the FLEX?

 

[1LE]

Originally posted by MaineDSM
It doesn't have any of the rattles that the Ground Controls have. Over on the DSMtalk, there is one guy who switched from Koni Yellows/GC setup to Tein SS, and is *VERY* happy with the switch, saying how his Konis blew out on him a couple of times, and rattled a lot.

Weird. No rattles here. I can't see any reason they'd rattle unless the install was botched somehow. Was the car lowered quite a bit? I do know that Koni's don't appreciate being "squashed"/used on one of those bumper dragging show cars

 

[Slappster]

Are there any coilover systems that do not need to be aligned everytime the drop is changed? This is the biggest problem I'm gonna have because the height and stiffness will be changed at least twice a week. I dont want to set it up for autox and have the alignment screwed because it was set for the street. And stiffness/height will also be changed when I go from here to la once a month.

 

[Slappster]

^^^^^ Somebody?

Originally posted by Slappster
With the edfc I know it adjust the damping but does it also adjust the height?

 

[igs]

Originally posted by igs

So I ask again, how is the FLT-A2 better than the FLEX?

 

[1LE]

Originally posted by Slappster
Are there any coilover systems that do not need to be aligned everytime the drop is changed?

In a word "no" It's not the fault of the coilovers. It's the suspension geometry. Now, should you decide to replace your suspension with a custom made double A arm configuration, you might be able to get it setup so that you don't need to align it.
Most people in your position align it for one or the other. Some try to compromise in the middle...

 

[1LE]

Originally posted by Slappster
^^^^^ Somebody?

What's an edfc? Is that the little electronic twirly doohickey that adjusts the damping force remotely? If so, then, no, it won't adjust height.