Rubbin hardcore..

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Long story short...

My buddy bought a FWD N/A 2g Eclipse not to long ago. The car was used as a show car and a home for some system the dude won contests all over with. Anyway, the car is has 19in Tantrums on and has Eibach lowering springs. Not sure which ones he has on there but I assume the lowest ones they have, cause he had the car lower than that so he says. Anyway, the dude took out the front wheel well in order for them to fit and when we got the car he gave us a camber kit he had yet to be installed. Anyway, after the camber kit was installed and an alignment done the car rubs hardcore on the passenger side rear... The car has 225s BFG whatever on it.. I'll post a picture... Anyway where the dude lived, in Lancaster, PA he could get away with such a low ride height, but where I live (not far from Gettysburg, PA) we can't get away with things like that. Poor road quality, anyway the object is trying to get the car not to rub while keeping it looking decent on 19in wheels. HELP!!!

I'll try to provide as much info as I can... The car is not mine, but neighbor/friends and even she knows little about it .

 

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Look how close...

 

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see the tire wear already...

 

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Here is the car... (That is my project in the background btw, TSi AWD

 

[scottr126]

I had a 2g talon back in the day and I had the same exact problem! So i just adjusted the camber back a little bit so it wasnt perfect but when I hit a bump and the wheel moved up it swung into the wheel well rather than hit the edge of it. Worked perfect.

 

[dsmnate]

Did you try rolling the fenders?

 

[TMP]

Nah, I may well have to try that.

 

[ECLIPSE4x4]

I have a question... I didn't read anywhere saying what type of shock he has. Are they still stock? If so are they blown?

 

[teddyrux]

I've heard that rolling the fenders might mess up the paint above the fenders and cause it to chip - I just had h&r race springs - like a 2-2.5 in drop- and I'm rubbin pretty bad too - It looks as if i get a camber kit it'll only make it worse. - As for that thread a couple comments ^^^, wouldnt the camber be ridiculous if you set it so it would flex into the wheel well?
Teddy

 

[ECLIPSE4x4]

**Talks to the wall**


I guess they don't giva *%$@

**Talking to wall off**

 

[mhj1r]

I just put on new tires (225/45-17) with progress springs and got the exact same rubbing (passenger, rear). I had the same size (different brand) tires on before with no problems.

I solved it by rolling the edge. the paint was chipping off it anyway from being blasted by dirt for so many years and the edge that was rubbing was shiny. I just used the handle of my big breaker bar to roll it, using the tire as leverage.

There is no external evidence that I rolled it (no chipping paint, etc.) I was thinking of masking off the area and giving it a spritz of rustoleum just in case. The lip is completely out of sight, so it doesn't matter what it looks like.

Just remember, when the car is just sitting there, the tire is further out than it is when you are cornering. So the part of the body that's rubbing is further in. Wrap your fingers around the top of the wheel well (Like you're about to lift the car) The sharp edge you feel is the part that rubs.

Mohammed

 

[GalantGSR91]

Originally posted by teddyrux
I've heard that rolling the fenders might mess up the paint above the fenders and cause it to chip - I just had h&r race springs - like a 2-2.5 in drop- and I'm rubbin pretty bad too - It looks as if i get a camber kit it'll only make it worse. - As for that thread a couple comments ^^^, wouldnt the camber be ridiculous if you set it so it would flex into the wheel well?
Teddy

it won't chip if you do it right. To be done properly, you need tools other than the normal friendly persuaders (breaker bar, claw hammer, screwdriver handle...etc) You need a ball peen, tin snips, a dolly set (or concave curved block of wood with a piece of felt attached) a pair of pliers.

snip the lip of the wheel well in about 1" sections (narrower where the curve of the wheel well gets sharper) and either use the pliers or your fingers to bent the sections of the lip up to the inside of the wheel well. Pick the dolly with the curve that matches up to the outside of fender over where the lip is. (it's best to put a thin cloth like felt or an old cut up t-shirt between the dolly and the fender) work your way from oneside of the wheel well/ fender to the other tapping just hard enough to flatten the metal against the inside of the wheel well. When you get it all done sand off any burrs and if you want get one of those touch up pens from like Walmart or somethin to prevent the corrosion.

I had to do this to fit the good 'ol sticky mickey's under the fenders in my elcamino and it worked out very well. Hot Rod Magazine did an article on it a few years back with pictures and stuff, and that's where I got the idea. If you get on their site you might be able to find it.

Total cost for me was about 10 bucks when all was said and done.

 

[onepimpclipse]

I had the same problem on the passenger rear. I just rolled the fenders. You can't tell by looking at the car, no chipping or anything.



P.S. I'm listening Ed, I just don't know the answer.

 

[ECLIPSE4x4]

Originally posted by onepimpclipse
P.S. I'm listening Ed, I just don't know the answer.

read post #8

 

[onepimpclipse]

Originally posted by ECLIPSE4x4


read post #8

Thats what I was talking about. I don't know if they're stock. Thats what I meant.

 

[TMP]

Sorry I have not replied in a while... I'll check more often as this is a pretty annoying problem.

The shocks are Tokico Non-Adjustables... (blue)

I guess going the camber route I would expect increased tire wear... So I'm honestly wanting to know about rolling the fender more. Exactly how should I do it, or should I have someone more professional do the job. Of course I'd want it treated to prevent rust and no one wants to chip the paint. Can you have it done at a bodyshop? If so, how much $$ do you think they'd want?

 

[ECLIPSE4x4]

well the camber is causing the wear, but the rubbing on the side is due to either shocks worn or blown, which you said are tokicos... of the rim size and width. They are 19's and how wide are they?

you may want to look into getting a size smaller like an 18 and probably no wider than a 8.5

 

[mhj1r]

Get your camber adjusted to spec, but don't adjust your camber just to get the wheels to stop rubbing.

Check your shocks and roll your fenders...maybe raise your car a tad.

M

 

[TMP]

K thanks... I'll post back again.