Wilwood Dynapro Big Brakes

[daren_p]

I was origionally just going to upgrade my fwd to the awd setup as I don't autocross & this is just a street daily driver but I wanted something better because I worped the fwd brakes way to easily. I recently found the Wilwood Dynapro big brake setup which isn't that much more then the awd setup would cost me but comes with 4 piston calipers & 2 piece 12.2" rotors. Looks to be a great kit for the price & will do exactly what I need it to. I was just wondering if anyone else was running this kit & what they thought of it?

 

[EclipseTenzoR]

where did you find this? And seriouslly its wilwood they have a good repuation so im sure its quality.

 

[jtmcinder]

Um, it's, like, right here on this site. http://www.dsmtuners.com/parts/product_info.php?name=Dynapro Brake Kit&products_id=850

- Jtoby

ps. be sure to do the math (or ask Todd at TCE) to make sure this isn't going to move too much bias forward

 

[NEASport]

It's a really nice kit for fwd guys who drag race because you can still fit many 15" wheels on for Slicks, which you can't do with kits such as the Stoptech Kit.

 

[eclipse_20g]

I take that for $1100, you get the calipers, pads, and rotors for the front only?

 

[daren_p]

Actually I found out about this setup from Todd at TCE, he recommended it to me. Correct the kit comes with calipers, pads & rotors for the front. You also need their SS lines to work with the calipers. The list on the kit is ~$960 (for the 2 piece solid rotor, drilled & slotted is $100 more I believe) & then lines are $75. If you give Todd a shout he might be able to give you a better price .

 

[Jaraxle]

I just got out of the garage from trying to put these on my 99' GS-T. The friggin HATS are a hair too small for the spindles ! They cannot be forced, and they do not seat against the spindle as required. I'll post back when I get information from wilwood or tce. I'm in amazement that something like this could happen. Everying else in the kit appears to be of perfect fit and finish. I ordered from a wilwood brake supplier who I will not name at this time since I'm disgruntled from being in the garage. Placing the rotors/hats back to back with a stock rotor, you can see the slight difference in center bore size.

-Jaraxle

 

[Todd TCE]

Actully I've sold a few of them. And far more of these basic kits on the new MINI. They sell as quickly as we can build them.

A couple of thoughts however...

1. They will NOT fit 15" wheels. By special order we "MIGHT" be able to spec a slightly smaller rotor that would. Have not tried it so I make no promises.

2. The hat fit is a Mistubishi deal. I had the same issue with another kit recently. The late 99 cars use the 3G bearing. And if you buy new bearings for your 95 you'll probably get this part as well. The original was superceeded I was told a few years ago when the problem first came up. The center bore of the hats bump from 2.640" to 2.712" and have a second step in them for some reason. No, the Wilwood kit hats will not fit without being opened up to fit this bore. Take what you have an have someone mill/lathe cut it larger for you.

 

[Jaraxle]

Todd,
That is the exact information I was looking for ! Not the supplier of my brakes or Wilwood themselves seemed to know this ! TCE is obviously the place to go if your looking for DSM brakes. TCE even offered to bore out my hats for a nominal fee. Hats off (pun intended) to TCE !

-Jaraxle

 

[daren_p]

As a follow up, I did purchase/install this kit & I'm very happy with the upgrade. Jaraxle, I ran into the same thing as you, looks like one of my hubs must have been replaced before I got the car & was the new revised version with the "step". One side fit perfect & the other wouldn't fit flush with the face. Luckely I have a lathe at work and was able to machine the center out abit to accept the larger stepped hub.

 

[boostedinaz]

As a follow up, I did purchase/install this kit & I'm very happy with the upgrade.

Pics????

 

[daren_p]

Pics????

I did a tech article on the setup last night with some pics but don't see it anywhere

I'll post some pics here tonight when I get home.

 

[99gst_racer]

I recently found the Wilwood Dynapro big brake setup which isn't that much more then the awd setup would cost me but comes with 4 piston calipers & 2 piece 12.2" rotors. Looks to be a great kit for the price & will do exactly what I need it to. I was just wondering if anyone else this kit & what they thought of it?

What kind of price did you get on the AWD conversion kit? I just did the conversion on my car yesterday, and it costed me only $259 with tax. I got the new 2G dual piston calipers w/ brackets, two cross drilled and slotted 11" Baer rotors, the Hawk pads, a bottle of the Willwood 570 fluid, and a red paint kit.

I agree that Willwood makes a nice product, but it is four times the price of the AWD conversion. Still kind of spendy, IMO. I have a pic if you want to see.

 

[daren_p]

What kind of price did you get on the AWD conversion kit? I just did the conversion on my car yesterday, and it costed me only $259 with tax. I got the new 2G dual piston calipers w/ brackets, two cross drilled and slotted 11" Baer rotors, the Hawk pads, a bottle of the Willwood 570 fluid, and a red paint kit.

I agree that Willwood makes a nice product, but it is four times the price of the AWD conversion. Still kind of spendy, IMO. I have a pic if you want to see.

For that price I may have looked harder at the awd conversion, but with SS lines I was coming up around $600 or so. That was for new calipers from Mitsu with no core (since I wanted to keep all stock parts). You got a hell of a deal if you paid $259 total as Mitsu calipers themselves will cost atleast that.

 

[FORMONTOYA]

Just an FYI on the hats not fitting the hubs, don't know if it applies, but my experience anyway....

I installed the Powerslot plus rotors f/r on my car (98). The rears fit without any problems, however, I noticed that on the front the hats wouldn't fit flush. I pulled them back off and noticed that I had a rust build-up around the edge of the hub. Of course I used a dremmel on the face to clean up the surface rust f/r. I also had to clean-up the edges on the front hub to get them to fit properly. As stated, it was only surface rust on the edges, but enough to give me problems.

Not necessarily the same issue, but one to look out for on some brands.

 

[99gst_racer]

For that price I may have looked harder at the awd conversion, but with SS lines I was coming up around $600 or so. That was for new calipers from Mitsu with no core (since I wanted to keep all stock parts). You got a hell of a deal if you paid $259 total as Mitsu calipers themselves will cost atleast that.

Yeah, I did get a decent deal on all the parts. I just could never stomach spending $1000 on front brakes. They definitely do look good and perform well though.

I was considering installing stainless braided lines on my car as well. I'm going to build my own kit though, and I've been too lazy lately to do that. It should only cost me roughly $20 though.

Here's a couple pics of the new brakes with my 18" rims. It's not a bad upgrade for the amount of money I spent. :
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i17/paulvolk/pics6237.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i17/paulvolk/pics6235.jpg

 

[cait sith]

Why would you run cross drilled rotors on the already too small 2G front brake rotors?

 

[daren_p]

Why would you run cross drilled rotors on the already too small 2G front brake rotors?

Those are the Baer rotors, they only come with both slotting & cross drilling. They also come with a 3 year warranty against warping & cracking, which I haven't seen from any other manufacturer.


Paul, those brakes defently look better behind your rims compared to the stockers . For my setup, it ended up at $900 total with the SS lines and upgraded rotors. For the extra I spent on this setup vs the $600 or so it would have cost for the awd upgrade, I think it was worth it. Got alot more braking power for my money & probably saved some weight as well. The 12.2" rotors weigh in at 11.5 lb's (because of the aluminum hats) and the aluminum calipers are also much lighter.

 

[cait sith]

Those are the Baer rotors, they only come with both slotting & cross drilling. They also come with a 3 year warranty against warping & cracking, which I haven't seen from any other manufacturer.
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Gosh, maybe I should run those when I do track days! I'll have a free rotor sponsor for 3 years.

 

[99gst_racer]

Why would you run cross drilled rotors on the already too small 2G front brake rotors?

A. Price, B. Warranty, C. I've used these Baer rotors before with great success.

 

[Todd TCE]

I am surprised we don't move more of these really.

I'll grant you; there's not the same value here for the all out road racer as you'd get in a 13-1.10 kit with FSL calipers etc. but for the "bang for the buck" you're pissing up a rope on that late model twin pot set up compared to this. The value is clearly here.

With a base price just north of $800 I can do them with alternate rotors as mentioned above, do them drilled/slotted blinged out, or do them plain jane with minor price and parts changes. Not to mention for a few bucks more do them in red!

In any case this package comes in well under a grand and offers both improvements in size, weight, caliper design, pad choices etc. not found in a lot of other designs.

What are you waiting for?
*Here's a tip: the new WW catalog is due out shortly. I promise you these will be going up in price as will others.

 

[daren_p]

Ok here are a couple pics, I did post a nice tech article last night with all the details and for some reason it's not showing up anywhere, hope I didn't spend all that time for nothing

I'm not sure if its allowd here but I can say both Todd at TCE and Wilwood offer excellent customer service.

 

[4wd-Eclipse]

Nice ... is it BOOTED DP caliper?
What is the total price?

 

[Todd TCE]

Yes these are the booted DP caliper. You can have the Stainless Steel pistons non booted as well if you wish.

Price is listed one post above these pics- #22. His choice of rotor sub drove the price up a bit more as he also stated above- #6

 

[4wd-Eclipse]

Thanx Todd ... but which caliper you recommending for daily driven DSM and why? and is the SS piston non-booted caliper required some special care or cleaning?