Tein upper pillow mounts?

[rspro]

Hey fellas, I'm thinking about getting a set of the Tein upper pillow mounts. Currently I'm running the Tein SS. The front one have adjustable plates right? How much adjustment is there? If anyone has any info would be great.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Upper pillowball mounts for 2nd gens are non adjustable

 

[SleeperG]

Upper pillowball mounts for 2nd gens are non adjustable

and if they were, it wouldn't do anything

 

[Flash]

I have the Tein upper mounts and they do absolutely nothing. Best $300 I've ever spent, what do you say?
You can't adjust them at all.

 

[rspro]

Hey thanks guys, I thought they were adjustable. I guess you guys saved me 300+ dollars. Oh by the way what's the point of having them? Does it allow for further ride height adjustments?

 

[wret]

Adjustable for what? You can't adjust front camber or cast at the top of the shock on a 2g. It's not a McPhearson strut.

 

[SleeperG]

think about this.
if you jump off of a foam or soft rubber mat, you can't get very high off the ground, WHY?
because when you jump, the material absorbs some of the energy.
now if you were to jump off of concrete, you would undoubtedly jump higher. WHY? cause the concrete won't give, that concentrates all of the enrgy used into the jump.

your stock strut upper mounts are some of the softest rubber on your car it seems.
put it the rubber in your hands and you can squeeze it like a stress ball.

this is bad because it dampens the precision whith which your struts respond to the road. the strut height can change, without the stroke of the strut moving at all.
this is no good for those of use who want a precise ride, and responsive handling.

a cheaper fix for this is to install a set of polyurethane upper mount bushings. $30 for a set of front and rear from RRE. this will get the sloppiness under control and you will feel a major improvement.
However the strut will still move around up there.

with pillowball uppers,
its a solid joint.
there will be NO MORE flex up there MAXIMIZING your struts potential, it will be able to respond to every bump in the road.
^this is a great start to controlling bumpsteer.
you should expect much tighter steering, and instant turn in.

now i didn't look at your mods list,
but there are other places the money for a set of pillowball uppers to be spent first.
one of the best is a set of PROTHANE suspension bushings. then a set of sway bars.
after you get all that stiffening under control
then a pillowball upper would be called for.

 

[rspro]

SleeperG, thanks for all of that. I guess I should invest my money in something else first.

 

[324vr4]

think about this.
if you jump off of a foam or soft rubber mat, you can't get very high off the ground, WHY?
because when you jump, the material absorbs some of the energy.
now if you were to jump off of concrete, you would undoubtedly jump higher. WHY? cause the concrete won't give, that concentrates all of the enrgy used into the jump.

your stock strut upper mounts are some of the softest rubber on your car it seems.
put it the rubber in your hands and you can squeeze it like a stress ball.

this is bad because it dampens the precision whith which your struts respond to the road. the strut height can change, without the stroke of the strut moving at all.
this is no good for those of use who want a precise ride, and responsive handling.

a cheaper fix for this is to install a set of polyurethane upper mount bushings. $30 for a set of front and rear from RRE. this will get the sloppiness under control and you will feel a major improvement.
However the strut will still move around up there.

with pillowball uppers,
its a solid joint.
there will be NO MORE flex up there MAXIMIZING your struts potential, it will be able to respond to every bump in the road.
^this is a great start to controlling bumpsteer.
you should expect much tighter steering, and instant turn in.

now i didn't look at your mods list,
but there are other places the money for a set of pillowball uppers to be spent first.
one of the best is a set of PROTHANE suspension bushings. then a set of sway bars.
after you get all that stiffening under control
then a pillowball upper would be called for.

I have a 1992 GVR4 with the Evo8 Suspension set up and I'm running into problems with my camber...the tires are wearing on the outside on both front tires. I have considered re-drilling (boring) out my OE GVR4 knuckles to better accept the Ingalls camber bolts made for the Evo (boring the OE GVR4 holes to 14mm like the Evo8s have); do you suggest just doing that, boring out the holes to accept the camber bolts and HOPE the camber can than be attained properly or would I benefit more from the Tein upper pillow ball mounts for adjustment on the camber? I found the Teins for around $220 shipped but the camber bolts are only a fraction of the cost and seem to help just as well. I do have this GVR4 purpose built for AutoX but not sure if spending that much money will grant me the camber I'm looking for to stop the uneven wear of expensive tires.

What is your advice? Buy the cheaper Ingalls camber bolts and set it up accordingly with boring hte OE GVR4 knuckle holes to 14mm to fit the camber bolts, or to simply buy the Tein Upper Pillow Ball Mounts to get two birds with one stone, essentially....?