Remote oil resevoir shocks

[CrazyUglyCoyote]

Im looking for a set of Coil Over suspension w/ remote oil resivoirs. I need them for a 1991 AWD. Any sugestions? Thanks!
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[definitiveno]

Im looking for a set of Coil Over suspension w/ remote oil resivoirs. I need them for a 1991 AWD. Any sugestions? Thanks!
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Tein makes the only unit I know about, there are more than likely others I am not aware of though........

 

[khanlon]

Im looking for a set of Coil Over suspension w/ remote oil resivoirs. I need them for a 1991 AWD. Any sugestions? Thanks!
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Why are you limiting yourself remote reservoir shocks? It is my understanding that they are only necc. for rally and possibly track use. This is because the remote reservoirs benefit from increased oil volume, hence reduced shock fade from heat.

I would think if you are autocrossing, drag racing, or street driving a requirement for remote reservoirs would be overkill.

 

[CrazyUglyCoyote]

Why are you limiting yourself remote reservoir shocks? It is my understanding that they are only necc. for rally and possibly track use. This is because the remote reservoirs benefit from increased oil volume, hence reduced shock fade from heat.

I would think if you are autocrossing, drag racing, or street driving a requirement for remote reservoirs would be overkill.

Exactly. Im trying to build a full track car. I have experience w/ remoter resivoirs from when I used to race quads in the desert. And aside from being so freakin easy to adjust w/ just the turn of a knob, I need somthing that I can have re-built when needed.

 

[cait sith]

Exactly. Im trying to build a full track car. I have experience w/ remoter resivoirs from when I used to race quads in the desert. And aside from being so freakin easy to adjust w/ just the turn of a knob, I need somthing that I can have re-built when needed.

My JIC's are completely rebuildable and adjust with a turn.

Unless you want to call up Penske, OHLINS, etc, and start spending 4000 dollars a corner for custom built shock/coilover setups, I think normal large volume coilovers are A OK.

 

[MrAWD]

Why are you limiting yourself remote reservoir shocks? It is my understanding that they are only necc. for rally and possibly track use. This is because the remote reservoirs benefit from increased oil volume, hence reduced shock fade from heat.

I would think if you are autocrossing, drag racing, or street driving a requirement for remote reservoirs would be overkill.

Hmm, you obviously never had an experience with the double or especially the triple adjustable shocks! Otherwise you would not make such a comment!
Benefits of triples (especially for autoX) are uncontestable! Topeka is known for its bumpy surface and usually people have issues with that here and there. At my first event there with triples after regular complains about the same problem I was just asking what bumps you are talking about. Think about driving on the rails and that is what good triple adjustable setup will give you!!!

Fedja

 

[drivemusicnow]

(sorry slightly off topic) whats the third adjustment in a "triple adjustable shock" i know about rebound, and compression, but can't think of the third adjustment.. and how expensive are these?

 

[cait sith]

(sorry slightly off topic) whats the third adjustment in a "triple adjustable shock" i know about rebound, and compression, but can't think of the third adjustment.. and how expensive are these?

High and Low speed settings.

 

[DG-FNR]

If you REALLY want them, I have a contact at Penske who can make Penske McStruts, and we can figure out something for the rears.

You're going to have to REALLY REALLY want them though, because they will not be cheap.

Firstly, the really good Penske double-adjustable compression canister (high and low speed compression - lots of control authority and really repeatable) are north of $500 each on their own, with no shock attached.

Secondly, there's a lot of work that happens in building a strut with Penske internals. It basically doubles the price for the same technology. Solid stuff, works great, there's really nothing better out there and it's easy to work with... but you're going to be looking at $2000-$3000 per corner by the time its done.

If you're serious, give me a call and I'll get started on working out a quote for you.

DG

http://atimotorsports.com
http://farnorthracing.com

 

[definitiveno]

I guess ground control offers a new line of dual adjustable shocks that they claim to be THE BEST bang for buck, 400 a corner. They look really nice.....







http://www.advance-design.com/

 

[wortdog]

I guess ground control offers a new line of dual adjustable shocks that they claim to be THE BEST bang for buck, 400 a corner. They look really nice.....

http://www.advance-design.com/

Too bad they don't fit any DSM whatsoever, unless something has recently changed.

The HotBits setup is probably the best off-the-shelf setup for 1G's currently available. They can be upgraded to single-adjustable with piggyback canisters and have Bilstein internals. I've heard rumblings in the WRX community that the D2 coilovers have a better rebound/compression ratio than most of the other 'Asian' shocks, but nobody has thrown them on a shock dyno yet, and those are also only single adjustable.

Koni's/Ground Controls are probably better than D2's unless their shocks are better than I think they are, which they could be.

TEIN and JIC are in the crappy Asian shock boat.

Shock-Tek is no more for years now, but they used to make exactly what you're looking for. You might try looking for a used set, but you'd have to send them off to a custom shock specialist to have them rebuilt, or DNG might rebuild them for you.

Looks like you're going to have to pay through the nose for custom shocks. . .

 

[MrAWD]

Well, Guy Ankeny built a set for my car for $1,600 a piece. Originally his price was $1,250 per corner, but due to some extra work, plus addition of the top pillow mounts the price went up. Add an IRS or Hypercoil spring to it for $50 - $60, shipping charges, and that should be all you have to pay for one of the best shocks that are out there!!

If I would go now to set my new car (if there would be one), there would be question what kind of suspension that car would have. If for stock then those would be outside double adjustable setup with the same remote tanks and only outside adjustment for the low speed compression on them. For anything else, full triples would be the only way to go!!! But, people know that I am a bit strange guy...

Fedja

 

[DG-FNR]

Penskes can be built to fit DSMs.

You can't get them off the shelf - so if you want them TODAY, you're out of luck. But they could be ready in a month or two if somebody wanted them. Maybe faster if there was cash on the barrel.

After bad experiences with 2 custom shock manufacturers (and by "custom" I mean "people who were making their own shocks from scratch" not "people adapting proven shocks to OEM fitments and designing custom valvings") I will never go down that road again, and I STRONGLY recommend people do the same.

Bilstein, Penske, Koni, Ohlins, Sachs, Dynamic Suspension are all known good shocks. Moton and JRZ maybe; I don't know enough about them to have an informed opinion. Pick from this list and you can't go wrong.

DG

 

[drivemusicnow]

Has anyone managed to modify ZF Sachs shocks to work? I ask because I work for ZF and could probably get them cheaper than others.