2G GSX brake upgrade

[bOOstd GSX]

How can I upgrade my stock brakes? I don't want to get a big brake kit, it's a little too expensive at this point and time. Could I get brakes off of an EVO or 3000GT. ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS AT ALL WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!

 

[ACM]

What pads and rotors are you running, and what is your primary complaint about your existing setup ?

Is it that they fade after heavy use, that they don't have the kind of bite / progression / 'power' you would like ?

Depending on your primary complaint, it may be that a simple change of pad material will get you most of the way to where you'd like to be.

FWIW, I am not aware of any caliper/rotor combination that is a bolt-on swap. Anything will fit if you have the patience and facilities, but short of your own mill, there's nothing that's bolt-on.

Charles

 

[bOOstd GSX]

I just want to upgrade to something with more power. Should I just go with powerslot rotors and new pads?

About how much do you think it would cost to have a caliper bracket machined so that I could put EVO brembos on my car?

 

[ACM]

Use "plain" rotors - not slotted, not drilled; OEM and plain Brembo are about the same price, so whichever you can get the best price on. Better braking generates more heat - drilling and/or slotting removes mass from the rotors, causing the rotors to heat up faster and higher, and transfer more heat energy to the pads, so stick with plain rotors.

I would suggest Porterfield R4S pads front and rear to start with. I have tried these, and they are the best I know of for a stock setup. Between myself and several local people, I think we've run the gamut of available pads, and all of us run R4S. There may well be better pads out there, but I'm not aware of them. You need a pad that works on a cold, wet winter day at the bottom of your street, as well as a hot day hauling you down from high speed on an off ramp - R4S are the only pads I know of that will do this without complaint. Well I do know of others, but they cost double the price of R4S and have half the life...

Charles

 

[Defiant]

Use "plain" rotors - not slotted, not drilled; OEM and plain Brembo are about the same price, so whichever you can get the best price on. Better braking generates more heat - drilling and/or slotting removes mass from the rotors, causing the rotors to heat up faster and higher, and transfer more heat energy to the pads, so stick with plain rotors.

Well, this is a new, interesting, and somewhat obtuse angle.

True that brakes work by converting the kinetic energy of a moving vehicle into heat, but they don't really just soak it up and keep it. It has to be dissipated. Venting will help this a lot, and slots and holes will help a bit more. The heat has to disspate to the air. More surface makes for more contact area with that air. Holes and slots provide more surface area.

 

[Todd TCE]

I'm leaning with Charles on this one too.

All the 'benefits' of the alternate ideas in the case of hight heat use can or may be negated by the trade off in both thermal capacity as well as life cycle of the part. There may be some benefit to the additons of the slots or holes such as 'bite' or pad cleaning, but again the loss of life may be an issue to consider.

Even full of holes were the mass is less, the saturation point can be reached too.

Weren't we horsing around with thie elsewhere??

 

[Defiant]

There is a certain deja-seenthis to it, but by now it seems most threads are that way.

 

[Attack Eagle]

I think before we make any suggestions, we should find out how he uses the brakes.
Is it heat soaking the patuckas out of them? fade after hard driving, poor feel.

he might only need pads to be satisfied, or SS lines and new pads

IN a very very rainy climate for street use I might side with slotted rotors and pads but only if he has good tires! The slots can get ugly after a while though.

I think that solids are probably the best for street use, but slots aren't bad on the street.
We used to switch all the mercedes at the shop over to slotted rotors in MS once the originals were gone. 2 reasons though were
1 less expensive
2 much better after running thru a puddle of which there were frequently many.

the mercedes slots are cut in 2 rounded edge triangle, like an atom symbol or a star of david with rounded tips, not the little slant lines you see on the street.

I would not go with crossdrilled on the street. You do need to get the rotor and pad up to operating temp, and you don't plan on changing them out every 5 -15 k when they get little cracks arounf the holes. Not on a street car.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

I have 19" wheels and tires. So I'm a little bit worried about the stock rotors and pads. I'm definatley gonna go with SS lines, the R4S pads, and thinking about Brembo rotors all around. Tell me what you think.

 

[Todd TCE]

I think your wheels are too heavy.

Hey, you asked.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

, I KNOW my wheels are too heavy but I think they are pretty pimp.

These are just my street wheels, I am getting a set of rota slipstreams for the track, or if i can sell the 19's they will be my street wheels.