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91 Galant VR4: 2L, GT4202, 44psi, E98, built everything

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This was from early this year:

First off a big thanks to Shane and DB Performance for making this possible. The car did make Great power, then we found our wall, and it was 2 fold.

So I wanted to get the car back to the 650 or so it was last year so I could hammer out the 60'. Then if things were going well we could turn it up a little and see where the wall was, or the limiting factor.

So we tried a few runs at base WG pressure, or what we thought was going to be WG pressure. It ended up running 40psi with a line from the compressor housing to both WG's. I do not know why that is but the WG springs are 24psi springs, so last year it would run 26psi, so I figured it would be about 26-28psi. Not the case, here it is at 39psi and reving to almost 10k, it just keeps going and going.

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So we proceeded to up the boost cut, based on the psi graph I figured it was going to run 35-38psi on WG springs. We checked with an air gun and the WG valves did move just fine. And in the end it was almost 40psi for spool up then settled at 38-39psi. This made 720 awhp, so upping the boost about 1psi from last year made 70 more ahwp.

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So after all this we put in the boost controller and upped it to 45psi, the ignition cut out like a rev limiter and the car made 789 or something, then after some poking we made the 816.6 AWHP and 538 ft/lb at 45psi tappering down to 43psi at the 816hp mark and 42psi at red line. But we had to run more ignition timing to get a clean pull then we wanted to, so it lifted the head on the end of this run. But we turned it back down to 36psi and it made 689ahwp, so that will be my new base PSI, and up it a little from there to around the 720awhp as traction permits.

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Then if I want more power I need a better ignition system, and a head with more deck thickness then the one I have now. The head I have on there now is decked a lot, the oil passage up into the head from the head stud hole is not very thick, and I might need to drill and weld in some supports in the deck surface of the head in between the head studs to get this thing to hold enough cylinder pressure to make the power its capable of.

I would need to up the base fuel pressure from 38psi to about 45-50psi, not a big deal with the fuel pump I have. Then up the boost to 50 some PSI and I think the car could make just over 900AWHp. But the setup has a long way to go before I could use that power, but on a dyno day it would be fun.

Here is the Shootout mode graph, this is supposed to simulate running the car on an AWD dyno Jet, which I will do a little later this year. Because this run was not done in Shoot Out mode the torque does not get changed, and thus why they do not cross at 5252:

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~John
 

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I bet that car is fun!
 
Haha! I read this title and knew exactly what car it was, car is amazing, John. I still want a back seat ride down the 1/4 mile haha.
 
Nice we need to HTA that now :)


I do need a ball bearing turbo, let me know what you have.

I was not at the shoot out due to work, and the car needs some more work before I go back to the track and try to better my ET/MPH.

I do have a few build threads, but they are on a local car forum and Galant VR4.org.

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This beast came from my garage at home, a lot of monster and bud light.

~John
 
I would love to run this car. You should bring it to Houston next year, for the tx2k event. We have a pretty fast white GVR4 here local that makes mid 600's and went last year, and everyone was like WTF....

Congrats on the numbers.
 
I have a hand full of things to work on before the car would be good to take down to Texas for some real racing. I hope to get a few things done over this winter and we shall see, about what time of year do they do that?

~John
 
its usually the third week of March. Spring break time.
 
There was a local Dyno day here at MAP this weekend. I pulled the head off my car to replace some bent exhaust valves and drove it down there to see how the car did on an AWD DynoJet.

I replaced the 2mm oversized exhaust valves with 1mm over valves. I ended up lapping them in, which worked great and they sealed just fine.

We turned the boost down to 36psi and did some street runs on the way down there, everything looked good, if felt good on power for that boost level. We looked at the logs and made some changes, upped the boost to 40psi and the first run it miss fired a little and made just under 800AWHP at 40psi. So we added some timing where it was missing and the 2nd run was clean, 829AWHP and 554ft/lb at 40psi with a little less overall timing then it had when it was on the dyno early this year at DB Performance.

So we cooled the intercooler down and tried to up the boost again, shooting for 44psi, forgot to up the boost cut, fixed that and tried again, it missed a lot, and put down 860something.

At DB early this year at 40psi on the dyno dynamics it made 720 un corrected AWHP, and at the same boost level on the AWD Dyno Jet it made 829ahwp at the same boost, dang.

I figure a clean cooled down pull at 44psi the car would make low to mid 900's, which is right were it should be.

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I should have pics and videos later this week, thanks Josh for helping tune and use your camera.

A big thanks to all the people that made this car possible: Ryan, Kyle, Josh, CP Pistons, Carrillo rods, Karl Ramm, KRAMM-LOX, Paul, Chuck at HTM,&#65279; Shane at DB Performance, Jacks Trans.

~John
 

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The focus was to see how it was at 40psi, because it runs good at that level, the 44psi would have been a bonus, when you see the dyno sheet you will understand.

~John
 
When you say

galamt said:
I replaced the 2mm oversized exhaust valves with 1mm over valves. I ended up lapping them in, which worked great and they sealed just fine.

do you mean the same valve seats were left in the head and you got the smaller +1mm valves to seal in the seats that were cut for the +2mm valve? Never thought that possible, but then again i've never tried. I love the fact that i can come here pretty much daily and learn something new :D

impressive numbers, i can only imagine what those "street pulls" at ~800hp much have felt like WOW, would love to be sitting driver seat for those (passenger seat and i'd probably shat myself LOL )
 
I recall we cut the valve seat AS big as it would go for the 2mm overs, and it was no were near the edge of the valve, we just got lucky as can be the 1mm overs lapped right in.

Street pulls at these power levels are not WOW for me any more. 2nd gear is over in just over 1 second when its on power, and 3rd gear is over in 3 seconds and 4th gear is delt with in 4 seconds. Top speeds in each gear are: 75, 115, 165.

There is no speedo in the car, so there is little sense of how fast it gets up to speed unless you are next to a stationary object, or some "fast" car or bike.

I have yet to race someone at all, but it will take a series setup to hang on the high way going from the right speed.

~John
 
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If street pulls are no longer "wow" you must hate daily driving anything, pounding on the dash screaming "why wont this thing get out of it's own way?" LOL (that is of course talking about a daily dirver other than your GVR-4)
 
I am ok driving slow. I did a lot of spirit driving early on in my driving career. I did get a hand full of tickets and pulled over way to much. So now I am fine driving a slow POS from point A to point B, but it can not be to big of a POS.

And when driving the race car around there is hardly any room to give it a little, 2nd is ok in most places but you really have to put thought into 3rd and 4th is just crazy. Let alone finding something to pull against around here is almost impossible for me.

~John
 
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