2G Stage 4 XTD clutch or ACT 2600

[4g63turbo84]

help chosen???

i will have about 450 in HP

 

[domthebomb11208]

I'm more of a act fan.2600 is a good clutch. Ever think about a 2900 with a street disc? It'd have enough holding power and still be streetable.

 

[TSimage]

help chosen???

i will have about 450 in HP

XTD4 is leaps and bounds above the 2600.. I believe it is closer to the 3200. If you are looking for a 2600, the X4 is beyond that range how ever clutch pedal feel is similar.

 

[4g63turbo84]

XTD4 is leaps and bounds above the 2600.. I believe it is closer to the 3200. If you are looking for a 2600, the X4 is beyond that range how ever clutch pedal feel is similar.

so you would do a xtd??...

 

[donniekak]

XTD4 is leaps and bounds above the 2600.. I believe it is closer to the 3200. If you are looking for a 2600, the X4 is beyond that range how ever clutch pedal feel is similar.

I can go to the track on a night with maybe a dozen cars and launch off the studderbox hotlapping the car with the xtd. One good launch had an act 2600/street disk combo slipping all the way down the track. The act pressure plates seem to be ok, but i've seen a ton of popped springs on the sprung centers, and stripped splines on the unsprung. The thing about xtd that i like is they have one of the toughest unsprung puck disk's out there. People worried about drivability should look somewhere else beside a 2.0 liter with 500 hp. I myself have no problems with a puck clutch, and welded diff.

 

[blizz99]

go with ACT 2600 w/ sprung clutchnet 6 puck

 

[Aproductions]

I had the same thread a couple weeks ago.

I went with a act2600 with street disk.


the unsprung xtd4 will:

be mostly on and off....not good for daily driver
but it will take ALOT of abuse and it is cheap too.

I was told that its not all about the pressure plate with the whole how bad is it on my crank thing.

Like a 2100 pressure plate with a 6 puck unsprung will be more choppy and not as drivable than a 2600 with street disk.

its up to you, but their are plenty of people running ACT and I see pretty many people running the ebay 1 too. I've heard good from both.

did you ever look into southbend?


also.....make sure to get oem tob!!!!!

 

[TSimage]

Don't listen to the above.. We advised him and he simply chose the wrong path.

For the price of a POS 2600 you can get an XTD stage 4 WITH lightened flywheel. There is an option of running the sprung puck instead of the unsprung which drives wonderful on the streat and takes a beating.

This was on a built 35r setup and a stage 3 TRE. It took every bit of the roughly 550-600awhp I put down and and no slippage.

 

[TSimage]

Don't listen to the above.. We advised him and he simply chose the wrong path.

For the price of a POS 2600 and the horrid street disc that barely holds the power of a 14b you can get an XTD stage 4 WITH lightened flywheel. There is an option of running the sprung puck instead of the unsprung which drives wonderful on the street and takes a beating.

This was on a built 35r setup and a stage 3 TRE. It took every bit of the roughly 550-600awhp I put down and and no slippage.

 

[MY1GDSM]

I don't know about the Xtd clutches But I've bought Several of the "F1" clutches from the ebay seller gripforce-clutches And have never had a single problem with them half of them where actually Clutch.net disc's

Here try this one OP
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-R...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27a376fab3

 

[rstchris]

I don't know about the Xtd clutches But I've bought Several of the "F1" clutches from the ebay seller gripforce-clutches And have never had a single problem with them half of them where actually Clutch.net disc's

Here try this one OP
F1 RACING XTREME® STAGE 4 CLUTCH 90-98 TALON TSI TURBO: eBay Motors (item 170246208179 end time Aug-21-10 14:28:20 PDT)

I do know about the XTD clutches and they are awsome. I had a Clutchmaster in the old 60mm rst and hated every race. No hotlaps for that street disc. In the gsx my XTD 6puck sprung went about 7k miles of beating the sh** out of it and is getting thin so I just ordered the same exact one. 27psi studder launches and still very streetable.

 

[byebyev8]

2600 is a good clutch even with a street disk. People have 10's with it plenty of times, there's a reason its the most popular clutch in the dsm community. Mine's held up with at least 50 5750 2step launches. When I pulled the motor the disk hardly had any wear. The 2600 is a good clutch.

 

[Oliver@Slowboy]

ACT gets my vote. I have used an ACT in all my builds and have never had an issue.

 

[habitatguy187]

Unnecessary coin spending going on for those with the 2600, although I do like the idea of their newish unsprung street disc.

 

[donniekak]

Unnecessary coin spending going on for those with the 2600, although I do like the idea of their newish unsprung street disc.

The last time i saw an unsprung act disk, the splines were sheared off it.

 

[2gawdtsi]

I honestly wouldnt recommend xtd,
I have a Stage 2, and have had problems with it, had to replace it once after 6 months of service

luckily under warranty, and the new one is already slipping on launches.

 

[TSimage]

2600 is a good clutch even with a street disk. People have 10's with it plenty of times, there's a reason its the most popular clutch in the dsm community. Mine's held up with at least 50 5750 2step launches. When I pulled the motor the disk hardly had any wear. The 2600 is a good clutch.

The most popular clutch in our community? That is the most far fetched comment in this thread thus far...

In COMPARISON the 2600 is trash, especially with the street Disc. Its not fair to compare the XTD stage 4 to the 2600 when the XTD4 is better than the 3200..

I honestly wouldnt recommend xtd,
I have a Stage 2, and have had problems with it, had to replace it once after 6 months of service

luckily under warranty, and the new one is already slipping on launches.

I would never recommend anyone buying anything less than an XTD3.. I mean, what's the point. They are too cheap to pinch pennies to that degree. At that point you are just barely improving over stock.

 

[yepes281]

I just ordered ANOTHER xtd stage 3.
I had one but they took it out of my tranny when it got rebuit and put in a stock one?? WTF
Anyways, the stage 3 was sick, and the stage 4 is probably even better.

 

[livedsm4g63]

I have had my 2600 in my car for a good while, and everything is holding up just fine. Im around 400-450 to the wheels and no slippage.

 

[boostedgsx95]

ACT for my vote.

XTD is junk

 

[blizz99]

ACT 2600 pp w/ ClutchNet sprung 6 puck

 

[ToughTalon]

What about a complete South Bend setup? From my experience the ACT is OK, I ran an ACT 2600 with street disc and it was OK. I have to replace the clutch and pressure plate now but I think it was a decent clutch (I ran out of time when I did the ACT clutch the first time and I didn't get the flywheel machined so I feel thats why it failed).

I don't have experience with a pucked clutch disc but I think its better for someone with a 7bolt engine who doesn't want to have a very high force pressure plate and put all that force on the thrust bearing.

I recently ordered a ACT MB1-XTG6 clutch kit. I think it came with the 2600 pressure plate, ACT doesn't specify the pressure anymore. The kit came with a sprung 6puck disc but I have been waiting for almost a month and supposedly they are on backorder.

So now I am thinking South Bend is the way to go, they are cheaper and their roots are in truck clutches, if they can build a clutch for a truck with 1600ft/lb of torque I imagine they can easily build a clutch for our cars. Thats what i hope at least!!!

 

[bluegs03]

ACT for my vote.

XTD is junk

See thats so funny you say that, because my act 2600 lasted 1000 daily driver break in miles with limited boost and slipped while boosting. My newer XTD stage 4 has less pressure on the clutch pedal, feels better, bites harder, doesnt slip, oh yea and was less than half of the act (which broke the spline teeth off the middle) plus at 1500 miles it has already outlasted the act which makes it a win in my book.

Please dont post hearsay, if you dont have experience with the product then dont talk.

 

[donniekak]

ACT for my vote.

XTD is junk

What experience do you speak from? My 2600 with a street disk couldn't cut better than a 1.8 60ft, without slipping down the track, it also lasted about 500 miles on a 30 psi setup. My xtd stage 4, which is the only xtd product i recommend, has cut 1.6 60's while hotlapping the car. I have also ran the xtd stage 4 on a 38 psi holset hx40 setup without issue. Numerous people have run the stage 4 on 500 whp setups, it is a proven product.

 

[habitatguy187]

I don't have experience with a pucked clutch disc but I think its better for someone with a 7bolt engine who doesn't want to have a very high force pressure plate and put all that force on the thrust bearing.

As stated an xtd stage 4 PP has a lighter pedal than the 2600.