| Drivetrain Tech Transmission, clutch, flywheel, driveshaft, gears, differentials, transfer case, shifter, etc. |
02-28-2008, 07:15 PM
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replacing clutch, flywheel, tob, seals...suggestions? I don't want to do this again
So per my other thread, my tob did go out, despite the fact that I replaced it and the clutch about 1500 miles ago.
So I'm going to replace everything again, including the flywheel this time. I'd like some suggestions so that I do not have to do this again.
I figured with my mods, I would go ahead and get the ACT 2600 kit, along with a lightened flywheel. What is the most trusted/streetable flywheel to go with? Take note this is my daily driver for the winter. I have owned a car with a 2600 in it before and I really didn't mind the feel of it. But I've heard mixed stories about flywheels and their streetability when paired with such a harsh clutch.
For the TOB I will be ordering the stock plastic one from the dealership.
I also figured it would be a good idea to replace the tranny seal.
I will also be putting in a tranny bushing kit while I'm in that area.
Is there anything else any of you recommend I do while I'm in this area? This will be the second time doing this, and I really don't want to have to do it a third time.
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02-28-2008, 08:10 PM
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I'd also change the Clutch release fork and Pivot ball.
I had a Fidanza light-weight flywheel paired with a Center Force Dual Friction clutch, it was real grabby but nothing too hard to drive. A few days of driving around and I had it down fairly well.
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02-28-2008, 09:10 PM
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The mixed stories about the light flywheels such as the fidanza or act ones are b.s. It'll take some getting use to (obviously) , rev a little higher to start off, but nothing exaggerated or intolerable. Fidanza and Act are pretty reputable flywheels. You might aslo want to consider a scatter shield and the crank seal since it's already there. Also if going with the lighter flywheel you could look into using the automatic spacer with longer flywheel bolts ( such as the fp kit ). Maybe even a ss clutch line.
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02-28-2008, 10:02 PM
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And while to hot half of the stuff out you could get the prothane motor mounts that you were wanting. They are also a bitch to put in you'll need a saws all, vice, hammer, some flat head screw drivers
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02-29-2008, 08:26 AM
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Newbie question, what is the purpose of an automatic spacer? A scatter shield may be a good idea. I will definitely replace the clutch fork, pivot ball, and crank seal. I will look into an SS clutch line as well.
As for the prothane mounts Chris, I was getting them for my Cobalt, not the Talon. I don't see how they would help that much on an AWD car. You getting them for yours?
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02-29-2008, 11:03 AM
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Yep got then and from the time I started putting the inserts in to the time the motor was in it took me about 4 or 5 hours. Most of it I was putting the motor in and looking back on it I wish I had down it a little different to maybe speed up the time, but maybe I'll remember it when I'm putting the build motor in this summer.
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02-29-2008, 11:23 AM
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02-29-2008, 11:37 AM
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Another question...is this the TOB that is the plastic OEM one?
OEM Clutch Throwout Bearing
Also, is it a good idea to use new flywheel bolts when taking the flywheel off?
Should I replace both my master and slave cylinders while I'm at it?
Would a slave cylinder extension rod be a good insurance policy to get as well?
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02-29-2008, 12:08 PM
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Yup. Mitsu part number is MD749998.
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Also, is it a good idea to use new flywheel bolts when taking the flywheel off?
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Yup. MD302074 (x7)
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Should I replace both my master and slave cylinders while I'm at it?
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Might as well if you have the money.
Master - MB555133
Slave - MD733623
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Would a slave cylinder extension rod be a good insurance policy to get as well?
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Nope. That's a band-aid fix for clutch problems. There are explanations on the forums that go into detail why it's not a good idea to use them.
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02-29-2008, 03:43 PM
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Ok, thank you. Anyone have input on the flywheel I linked from Ebay?
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03-01-2008, 06:35 AM
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Newbie question, what is the purpose of an automatic spacer?
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Here you can read this article Forced Performance: DSM Aluminum Flywheel Hardware Kit
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03-12-2008, 05:11 PM
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Is there anything else any of you recommend I do while I'm in this area?
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Absolutely, positively get your clutch and lightened flywheel balanced together! If not you may get a very annoying resonance on decel. It's become a common thing but can be avoided.
Read this thread New fidanza and 6 puck, now having noise and vibration
Rick - '91 GSX 
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