AWD conversion....Link??

[Mistaspakles]

So does anyone have a link on converting the GS-T to the GSX? I'm going to do it for sure next spring and want to be sure I will have everything that I will need. Anyone know of a link?

 

[Hobbes =^.^=]

I don't think anyone did a write up for this conversion. You can e-mail RRE. They should be able to help you out. They have done it to a Spyder. But the labor/parts alone cost well over 6k. Be sure you find a very, very reputable shop to do it. A member has also done it, I believe his name is something like DannyBoy. PM or E-mail him. I am sure he'll can help you out.

Good luck

 

[AW4G63]

I dont think dannyboy did it. He doesnt have a spyder. He converted his 95-96 gsx to a 97-99 front and back end.

There was a member that was featured who did it.
Are you doing it? Or having a shop?
Have fun

 

[mark blair]

i am currently working with extreme motorsports in jessup,MD to convert my GST to a GSX,and i actually found someone in Cali that i bought everything i will need to do the conversion for $3900 shipped...from what i have heard all in all it really isnt that drastic of a change.....since both the GST and GSX are built on the same frame most of the parts bolt right back in with only a few new holes to be drilled...guess it depends on your budget wether or not $3900 is high or low....

 

[Hobbes =^.^=]

"A little fabrication is necessary on the center tunnel. The middle drive
shaft carrier location/stiffener is there but no studs. You just have to add studs. The rear bearing carrier location is missing. You need to fabricate a drop down box and studs. The mounting for the gas tank is different. You need to cut off the FWD mounting brackets and add studs to mount the AWD tank. All the fuel pump wiring colors are the same. The front end of the car is all the same. The rear frame rails were the most work. The rear two big studs for the rear suspension crossmember are in the right spot but they are too short. The front studs are too short and need to be moved forward some. Still, not a deal breaker at all, just some surgery. On a 1G everything is totally different, it was way too much work to swap a FWD to AWD (did it on a rally car once). 2Gs are much more similar."

That was a quote from Mike at RRE. Expect to pay around 3k for labor + 3-4k for parts. That's what RRE charges for this conversion. You will be better off buying an AWD since the parts and labor cost more then buying an awd.

 

[mark blair]

well i got all the parts off a wrecked 2gen GSX for $3900 shipped and extreme motorsports quoted me $1200-$1500 for labor..and with all the work i have done to my GST it does not pay to buy the whole GSX and move everything over...that would cost more for the car as well as thousands of $$$'S to move it all over

 

[Mistaspakles]

If I've got a 2G, does the AWD parts have to be from a 2G? Or can I use the parts from a 1G AWD?

 

[J4Y5iN]

I'm sure one of these other guys can tell you for sure, but I'm 99.99999999% sure you can't. Like Hobbes said they're just not the same car at all.

 

[J4Y5iN]

I've got a question... is the chassis the same (in 2g) from turbo to non-turbo?

 

[The1Bill]

Yes, the turbo chassis and the nonturbo chassis is the same. From the firewall back, there is no difference.
-=B-=

 

[Kyle90GSX]

Originally posted by J4Y5iN
I've got a question... is the chassis the same (in 2g) from turbo to non-turbo?

Its the same, yes, but it's still a bad idea to try to convert it to a 43. You basically need a parts car, that would be pretty expensive. It's always been highly reccomended that you just buy the car instead of trying to convert one.

 

[FlaToUt-GST]

I've been gettin sick of all the spinning lately, so naturally this caught my attention. The price seems kinda unrational to me tho. I'm hoping to sell my gst for around 10k-11k with only the catback left on it (rest back to stock). Then get a 97 or 98 tsi awd and put my mods back on it. Hopefully it wont end up costing anything but time.

 

[mark blair]

sounds good craig but i just have way to much money invested in my car to move it all over would be way to much money...also after i sell all the parts that i will be switching out i should only lose labor to install the awd maybe a little more

 

[invadergst]

I plan to do the same conversion this winter and be ready for the spring. $3900 for the parts was expensive. YOu could have found an AWD rolling chassis for around $3000. I just bought a slavaged title 95 AWD talon for $2000 to do the job. My question is people say that the front part is aabout the same but why is it when you order aftermarket downpipes and catbacks they are different? Will I be able to keep my Apexi GT downpipe and my Apexi Dunk catback?

 

[ProStreetOnline]

This is our Spyder, that was converted by RRE, and since then we have made some structural modifications to keep the body from flexing.

If you have any questions, don't hesistate to ask.

http://www.prostreetonline.com/pso/pages/customercars.asp?view=1

 

[deth2u]

Here's something to think about
GS -> GSX

GS's are unbelievibly cheap, and are not classified as a sports car

for people who the insurance companies deem "high-risk" (EG: Me and probably many of you) why not take that upgrade loan and convert your GS into a pavement ripping badass "economy car" and all that money you saved that would've been pissed away at insurance you can save and put into something you can actually USE.

Let's see. buy a GS for $7000 and a 1G engine for $2000 and you're still under a GSX. take that $3900 and you have a GSX driveline with economy insurance and a turbo engine for a bit under what you would have paid for a GSX retail.

hmmm doesn't sound bad to me

 

[invadergst]

That's not even worth it. How do you figure converting a GS (Neon) into a GSX. Talk about a pain in the butt. Your talking crazy man hours, and basically a whole car. There's nothing you can use in a GS. Nothing, but pssibly the frame and body. You'd have over $10K into it and it still wouldn't be the same. Anything is possible, but come on. That's just not a good reasonable idea. Everything from the ECU, entire engine, entire everything............ I cannot even begin. No fool would want to spend that much money and insure it as a GS. Someone crashes into you and you get a fraction of what you invested. Mine as well not get full coverage then.

 

[mark blair]

thank god somone else feels the same way.....come on deth2u i have almost 30gs into my car $3900 at that point isnt that bad of a deal as well as once i sell all of my parts from the swap i should atleast recover half of the cost to convert

 

[Hobbes =^.^=]

With the amount of money to convert a GS-T to a GSX. You can buy a whole GSX or a rolling chassis. $3900 + $2000 in labor. That's close to $6000.

I don't see how you've spent 30gs on your GS-T either. Is that 30gs including the car? That's alot of money into that car.

 

[Mistaspakles]

They don't sell AWD spyders so this is the only option if you want an AWD spyder.

 

[mark blair]

hobbes go to my car info and add it all up.i have no reason to lie why doubt what you dont know???...not including the cost of the car....and i never said $2000 for labor and i will recover atleast half the $3900 when i sell all the parts that are being replaced

 

[deth2u]

Originally posted by invadergst
That's not even worth it. How do you figure converting a GS (Neon) into a GSX. Talk about a pain in the butt. Your talking crazy man hours, and basically a whole car. There's nothing you can use in a GS. Nothing, but pssibly the frame and body. You'd have over $10K into it and it still wouldn't be the same. Anything is possible, but come on. That's just not a good reasonable idea. Everything from the ECU, entire engine, entire everything............ I cannot even begin. No fool would want to spend that much money and insure it as a GS. Someone crashes into you and you get a fraction of what you invested. Mine as well not get full coverage then.

Was worth a shot. Anyway, when I was going just straight me on the insurance for my GT, the insurance quote chick started the quote like this when the number came up. "Uhh...um... About $2100 for six months"

HOLY JESUS i said...then i cheated them by insuring it under my mom and mom giving me permission to drive it

 

[gst_spyder]

mark blair wrote on 11-12-2002 07:00 AM:

extreme motorsports quoted me $1200-$1500 for labor..

I'm just curious could you go into details? Like who you talked too and what would be performed for the $1200-$1500 etc.

Mario

 

[larryd]

Originally posted by mark blair
well i got all the parts off a wrecked 2gen GSX for $3900 shipped and extreme motorsports quoted me $1200-$1500 for labor..and with all the work i have done to my GST it does not pay to buy the whole GSX and move everything over...that would cost more for the car as well as thousands of $$$'S to move it all over

when is this suposed to be done.. Could you please verify the price and make sure that is completely positive? If I could do this swap for that labor fee I would most likely do it without batting an eye.

 

[Mitsu_Racing]

Did Extrememotorsports.com give any kind of warrentee on the conversion. Like if something went wrong? Thanks.