Going to 1/8th + latest 0-60mph ET (other thread don't work)

[turboglenn]

Well lets try this again, this sunday i'm going to the last race of the season at opur 1/8th mile track (it's been flooded all year and finally the waters have fallen and it's clean enough to run on) I'm sorta stoked about the event, which is a "true street" event (all cars must be currently plated and street tires only allowed in order to run period)

There's 2 hours of T&T to estacblish a dial in then the rest of the day is racing I never have been a huge fan of bracket racing (i'm more of a heads up elimination guy) but i guess i can try and be consistant on my 5spd, but being new to AWD launching isn't gonna help, might have to sandbag and use the 2 step to slow down at the end of the track (just kidding, i'll go all out)

Never have been excited much for the 1/8th mile, but with AWD i figure it will be fun for once.. I used a program called dynomaster on my android (just like G-tech) but with more features and did some 0-60MPH pulls (well i did 2, the first one i bogged, the second one was "just right") The good one netted me a 0-60MPH of 4.34 seconds and a total 0-64mph in 4.507 seconds (i let off when the logger said the 60mph mark was reached as that's all i was after)

EDIT: ALso would like to add that the 1-2 shift came at about 7600 RPM, then i revved 2nd out untill the 60MPH chime, and then just mercy shifted to third and let off, porbably could have gone faster launching harder, shifting a tad later on the 1-2 and turnign the boost up past 26psi

Anyway, back in the late 90's early 2k's that was Porsche 911 turbo AWD 0-60's so i'm very please considering that i pretty much babied it out of the hole, no 2-step, no burnt clutch and didn't even "dump" the clutch as i'm still afraid of breaking stock drivetrain parts..

anyone else pull some 0-60's on similar prgrams/devices on stock drivetrains or near stock that can post up some times? (i'm sure a dogbox with a twin disk and a 4 spider CD and I would have brought that number down a TON, maybe even into the new porsche times of 3.7 on the 2010 911 GT3 ) Ever since the swap when talking to people that don't understand cars i just tell them it's now what you'd call "a poor man's porsche"

Anyway, i'm happy, wish me luck on sunday and i'll be posting results

(for some reason my other thread about this won't work on any PC or phone i try and view it on, so can a Mod/Admin please delete it?)

 

[GRAVEDIGGER]

Sounds like fun! I wish I was there to watch. I actually didn't know you had recently swapped to AWD, so good luck with that. I'm sure you'll get it figured out soon enough. After I went from a FWD to an AWD car I simply fell in love with the grip of the AWD. There is one local track that you have to go up a hill to the starting line and you have no choice but to drive through the water (which of course is not what you want with street tires). With my FWD I would try to spin them to dry them (which didn't work) and then I would be fighting the usual FWD issues with a street car on street tires. But with the AWD I can just drive right through the water and forget about it. I can drive right up and cut a 1.7-1.8 60' with a pretty easy launch which was unthinkable with the FWD.

Anyway... Sorry for the story, but good luck and have fun!

 

[turboglenn]

Stories always welcome in my threads i need stuff to read

L:ast night i tried pulling some better 0-60's and the boost was going out of control and i wwas shutting down.. re-routed the plumbing to the gate and EBC and re-programmed the EBC for "in case of overboost" and everything checks out, gonna make a few passes today at lower boosts and see if they hold, then make sure my AFR's are spot on and get it ready for the track (maintenence stuff)

4.3 i guess isn't all the impressive compared to some peoples but to me it felt great since i've never owned an AWD car and i babied it out of the hole, can't wait to eat, work then get to play again today !!

I REALLY need to sel my leftover FWD stuff like the built trans and slicks cause i'm broke, not working that week of putting this together and then the following days of debugging and grieving that my father died at the start of the project has gotten me behind on bills and stuff

 

[GRAVEDIGGER]

Wow! So sorry to hear about your father. I'll look forward to hearing how you do at the track on Sunday.

 

[e85_4g63]

Glen: (First off sorry to hear about the passing of your father, losing some is always a sad time).

Can you link me to your slicks F/S post (in the classifieds I assume), I can't seem to find it..

 

[turboglenn]

here's links to all of it, make me some offers!
Center Line Drag Rims/Slicks For FWD DSM - DSM Classifieds

TRE Stage 2 FWD trans with Quaife LSD - DSM Classifieds

Fidanza 9lb aluminum flywheel 6 bolt FWD - DSM Classifieds

 

[BoostedBeaver]

Good morning Glenn,

Sorry to hear about the loss of your father and I will see if I can help you move some of those parts. Attached is a screen shot of my 0-60 time on a HX35 in the bolt on housing and a complete track pass for your viewing pleasure(do not pay attention to first gear boost, I was having a bad time spinning and trying to compensate). This netted me a sorry 2.0+ 60' and a 12.XX at 121 MPH(1/4 mile of course ). My time slips are in the holset threads if you would like to look at them. http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/152773377-post64.html Here is the youtube link which has footage of two passes. robertbaxley's Channel - YouTube Good luck at the track and I hope you enjoy it. Keep us posted.

Robert

 

[turboglenn]

WEll, I spent most of the day going over the car for sunday (if i can afford to go anyway) and everything that was considered a "loose end" is tied up, everything that needed re-tightened has been checked and taken care of and a bit of tuning was done as well. Besides cleaning the filter, i swapped from 2 wally in-tanks to one 25HP in tank at the time of the swap, so i eliminated the "Y" fiting and extra plugged off -6 line as well, and made sure the line was tucked better in a new routing, along with the methanol (for when i have to use pump gas) and the nitrous lines (for the fun times when i get a better trans anyway)

Then since the tune was in order i did a few more 0-60's and i'm not sure how much to really put on the ACT but if i smell clutch i consider it a bad launch and let off or if i feel it heat up and slip at all. So basically bogging off the line but today using the 2 step at 4500 RPM and about 65% TPS i was able to get down to a 4.18 0-60mph yay me !!

Anyway, that's my day and what it's been, now i have a bit of extra AN fittings and lines to use for other purposes under the hood that should look nice as well as cleaning up the underbelly of the car.

I need to go through and grease everything in the rear cause there's a squeak at low wheel RPM's that goes away above like 3-5MPH and i can't find it for the life of me (nothing is loose from the t-case back to the axles)

But i have noticed you can't put as wide a rear tire on a 95gsx rear knuckle as you can on a 97 gs-t rear knuckle (running spacers to keep them from rubbing, but up front i retained the 97 knuckles on both sides) uis there a difference in them between 2ga and 2gb?

I'm back to using a MBC (which i really dislike due to having to get out and pop the hood to change boost levels) but untill i maybe troubleshooot the profec b or hook one of the haltech's channels and trim knobs up to do wastegate duty i guess i'll deal with it (at least it's a nice unit that clicks about 12 times per revolution to let you set it fairly precisely) and i have a spare home made hallman style in the glovebox as well (prepared like a boyscout, extra fuel lines, pumps, fittings, back pack of tools and so on ) So hopefully all goes well this weekend and i don't get launch happy and break anything

What is a reasonable 60ft i could hope for on a stock 2ga AWD 5spd and stock weight 2gb on street tires (without being on the edge of breaking the center diff?)

 

[e85_4g63]

1.7 to 1.8's is reasonable..

 

[BoostedBeaver]

^^ This is what I have been told for the past two weeks. I can not cut below a 2.0 to save my life at the moment, and 1.7 seems to be a decent 60' on street tires in the AWD platform.

Robert

 

[turboglenn]

^^ This is what I have been told for the past two weeks. I can not cut below a 2.0 to save my life at the moment, and 1.7 seems to be a decent 60' on street tires in the AWD platform.

Robert

Although i haven't had an accurate measure on my 60 foots on the AWD (YET!) but in my FWD on slicks and an open diff i easily cut 1.9's all day just dumping the clutch at 4500 RPM 2-step and smoking the one wheel once i spooled

I guess AWD is more complicated thought because it's up to the driver to provide the slip (or break parts if you don't) so we'll see what i can pull off sunday.

what's realy bugging me is that my EBC fried last night (checks out ok but doesn't control boost no matter how i set it up) so i'm on an MBC which i havne't had to use in years and i keep over shooting or underboosting my target, I just hope i can dial it in by the track time or setup thehaltech to control boost by then.

This turbo is a DOG at 21psi (litterally) but at 26 she's mean as hell and about the limit of my injectors to 8500 RPM) I can get 28psi but i have to short shift to stay under 105% IDC by 7k RPM, so i need to get that dialed in to the most usable powerband i can get by sunday, I'm glad as hell this OEM trans shifts so well though.. not sure if it's the "custom mix" of fluid or just in great shaper for being old as dirt.. was thinking some synchromesh would help too but i think it's too damn thin for the power i'm making (just my thoughts)

 

[BoostedBeaver]

Although i haven't had an accurate measure on my 60 foots on the AWD (YET!) but in my FWD on slicks and an open diff i easily cut 1.9's all day just dumping the clutch at 4500 RPM 2-step and smoking the one wheel once i spooled

I guess AWD is more complicated thought because it's up to the driver to provide the slip (or break parts if you don't) so we'll see what i can pull off sunday.

what's realy bugging me is that my EBC fried last night (checks out ok but doesn't control boost no matter how i set it up) so i'm on an MBC which i havne't had to use in years and i keep over shooting or underboosting my target, I just hope i can dial it in by the track time or setup thehaltech to control boost by then.

This turbo is a DOG at 21psi (litterally) but at 26 she's mean as hell and about the limit of my injectors to 8500 RPM) I can get 28psi but i have to short shift to stay under 105% IDC by 7k RPM, so i need to get that dialed in to the most usable powerband i can get by sunday, I'm glad as hell this OEM trans shifts so well though.. not sure if it's the "custom mix" of fluid or just in great shaper for being old as dirt.. was thinking some synchromesh would help too but i think it's too damn thin for the power i'm making (just my thoughts)

What type of EBC are you using?? Can you use some other type of solenoid (Engals Rand) wired in to haltek?? Just wondering if there is another alternative to the MBC. I love Boost by Gear (ECMlink) and knowing that I am getting the most out of the turbo as soon as I can. Is your EBC just a solenoid with a driver in between??? A link would be nice. I am just trying to see how it could test good but not perform anymore and the only EBC I have ever used is the Engals Rand solenoid wired into link. Hopefully we can get something wired up for you so you can get boost dialed in. If not, the MBC will have to do.

As far as the tranny, I am fortunate as well. Although mine is only a year old, it shifts as smooth as butter at 8500 and I really could not ask for more. I have had the fluid talk with many people and it seems our tranny's do seem to like the thicker fluid. It has the properties that can properly lube and protect the gearsets. If you don't mind me asking, what is your "mix" of fluids. I run the redline 75w140NS as the lightweight shockproof leaves a nasty film inside the tranny. Readline MTL is a great fluid but is just to thin for higher power in my opinion. Enough of my talk. Good luck and keep us posted.

Robert

 

[turboglenn]

My EBC WAS a greddy profec B (old style with three knobs one for response, one for hi and one for lo boosts) I can run a simple pneumatic solenoid off the hatech for boost control and that's probably what i'mm gonna do, got it planned if i have the energy and am not in pain today

As for my trans i ran nothing but the redline mt90 and shockproof per TRE's recomendations after breakign it in on gl-4

my "special mix" is something a good friend of mine with a fast ass 1g whop builds his own trannies every year told me to try.. I put 3/4ths a quart of ATF dex III then filled the rest with GL-5 (can't find GL-4 local without ordering it in, so he said to try that and i did, i run the GL-5 in the t-case and rear diff too but the manual says that's what they call for in the 2g anyway)

The "mix" is making this 95 trans shift better than my 97 FWD one ever did and i got that one with 18k on it and got this AWD one with at least 120.xxx++++ on it it makes some noises from bad bearings i need to at least fix or get a spare to build if i can't sell my TRE

 

[BoostedBeaver]

If the pain does not set in, hook up that solenoid and dial it in. As far as the MT90, I used it a lot before the build and then got into a few conversations over the fluid's thickness(after the addition of more power). In the end I took the thicker route. The shockproof was mention as the more superior fluid but would in turn leave a nasty film residue inside the tranny. I have had no personal experience with the "film" but I will see if I can find one of the post with pics. Keep us posted on the times and solenoid progress.

Robert

 

[gofer]

Glen, that program you've got seems tacky man. You and I have similar hp/tq numbers and heres a screenshot of my ECMLink log running my 11.65, the 0-60 est. is 3.2 seconds.

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[BoostedBeaver]

Glen, that program you've got seems tacky man. You and I have similar hp/tq numbers and heres a screenshot of my ECMLink log running my 11.65, the 0-60 est. is 3.2 seconds.

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Someone was spinning a little at the top of 1st

Robert

 

[gofer]

Someone was spinning a little at the top of 1st

Street tires. Besides, I'd rather spin and break traction then stick and break drivetrain parts, one is A LOT more expensive.

 

[BoostedBeaver]

I totally understand. My 2.0 60' should tell you how much of a wimp I am and I posted the one log that did not spin (because the boost was turned down to wastegate pressure.) Nice times by the way gofer and glenn please keep us updated.

Robert

 

[jdxnc]

But i have noticed you can't put as wide a rear tire on a 95gsx rear knuckle as you can on a 97 gs-t rear knuckle (running spacers to keep them from rubbing, but up front i retained the 97 knuckles on both sides) uis there a difference in them between 2ga and 2gb?

Yup, the 2ga and 2gb knuckles are slightly different, with there being more room for more width on the 2gb.