420A: 420a Race Car NEW SET UP for ZERO

DSM-ZERO · 03-01-2010, 07:24 AM

Hey everyone

This year im going to change my set up lol
I know i know i just got the car running and i need to learn how to drive first BUT
Im in a really good posisition to do alot this year soooo

THANKS to my new sponsor Comp Turbo im going with a CT5 72mm
and im also going Air to Water
also
BIG THANK YOU to my Sponsor CLUTCH MASTERS for comming through on my new clutch for the season

Stay Tuned
ZERO

Fotowntalon · 03-01-2010, 07:36 AM

Damn, this isn't, facebook, i kept searching everywhere for the "like" button

DSM-ZERO · 03-01-2010, 07:39 AM

FIND ME on Facebook>>>> Robert A. Montalvo

Diamondrev · 03-01-2010, 10:41 AM

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FIND ME on Facebook>>>> Robert A. Montalvo

will do

I think I have you on myspace. or I might have to send another request because I deleted my other.

ninjai_ruken · 03-01-2010, 03:08 PM

Nice, Good luck this year.

DSM-ZERO · 03-02-2010, 08:23 AM

Hey thatnks
Im gonna need it. Im really gonna go for it this year

Rage-Tek420a · 03-03-2010, 04:34 PM

Good luck man I hope and wish you the best of luck. My setup has changed alot in the past months too. I know how it is so I just hope that you get the best out of it and everything works as planned.

DSM-ZERO · 03-04-2010, 08:20 AM

^^^^Yes we will both need it for sure^^^^

What did you change with your set up

fantompr · 03-04-2010, 11:49 AM

good luck with the new setup
Exito

slowgsr · 03-04-2010, 01:16 PM

goodluck with the build man.

care to share details on the a2w setup? core size, location, if your using a icebox/heat exchanger etc, circulation pump, resiviour location, line size/length etc, pump flow?

thanks.

96GST20g · 03-05-2010, 10:03 PM

gaaa make it harder for me to catch you lol.

Rage-Tek420a · 03-06-2010, 12:47 PM

When do you think the new setup will be done...... And when are you running it again

LD25Delta9 · 03-07-2010, 01:08 AM

So when did you steal my playbook Rob?!? Who sold me out on the liquid to air?!? I want answers!!! Good luck though man!

bullettdsm · 03-07-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LD25Delta9

So when did you steal my playbook Rob?!? Who sold me out on the liquid to air?!? I want answers!!! Good luck though man!

Me

. A year and a half ago (though, I'm sure it was based on other things. Not just the fact I'm using it

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Originally Posted by 96GST20g

gaaa make it harder for me to catch you lol.

Keep in mind (and Rob would second this) we are all chasing after Hahn (10.87 lowest verifyable). Rob's sitting at 11.5 and I'm sitting at 11.4 (albeit both set-ups only came out last year. Both of us need to get past seat time and set-up problems).

There are still a couple in front of us; I know Crab is right around 11.2ish and AWDDynomite is in for an 11 flat. And just last month Cesar broke into the tens (10.99. Hey, a 10 is a 10

Hasn't backed it up or anything, but he's there anyway). So there are a few out there.

But on the bright side, we FINALLY have a few out there

MB

LD25Delta9 · 03-07-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bullettdsm

Me

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It would be you...

I've had the idea ever since I got my DSM 5 years ago!!!! ARRRGH!!! I saw one on a Buick GNX one year with my uncle at a drag-strip and thought how cool it would be to have one of those..... My shallow pockets be damned!!!

DSM-ZERO · 03-08-2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by slowgsr

goodluck with the build man.

care to share details on the a2w setup? core size, location, if your using a icebox/heat exchanger etc, circulation pump, resiviour location, line size/length etc, pump flow?

thanks.

Im using my same core just gonna weld some end tanks on it for the water.
core is a 6x12x12.
Im just gonna run and "Ice Box"
Resiviour will be behind the passanger seat or up front in aome where in the bumper
line size i belive is 3/4 and i have not decided on waht pump to use yet

OH im also running a NEW set of ID 2000cc injs for m Tony at T1's

PICS soon
everything will be done for the new season

bullettdsm · 03-08-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DSM-ZERO

OH im also running a NEW set of ID 2000cc injs for m Tony at T1's

Nice

Try to keep the ice box up front. More weight over the front wheels

MB

DSM-ZERO · 03-08-2010, 11:53 AM

that what i want to dooo but we will see how much room i have,...

Oh and Mark do you think an SRT4 trans will work with our motor.....do i need an adaptor plate.

Because i got a really good deal on a Dog Box

Rage-Tek420a · 03-08-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DSM-ZERO

that what i want to dooo but we will see how much room i have,...

Oh and Mark do you think an SRT4 trans will work with our motor.....do i need an adaptor plate.

Because i got a really good deal on a Dog Box

Well to answer your question no you dont need an adapter plate it bolts right up to the 420a motor. you just have to make a new tranny mount. oh and get srt axels of course and maybe spindles depending on what you already have

I would like to know more about this so called dogbox that you say you got a real good deal on.!

LD25Delta9 · 03-09-2010, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DSM-ZERO

Im using my same core just gonna weld some end tanks on it for the water.

Good luck with that. Liquid to Air IC's use a different style core. You can weld on some tanks to the front and back of it to run water through where the air would normally hit the front of your core BUT, The Water Passages on a true Liquid to Air are smaller than that of the air passages. If you use a Air to Air core, you will lose efficiency. Here's a good link for a real one: Air to Water Intercooler

The website looks like something from the early 90's but their products are quality. They kind of explain why the Liquid to Air differs from the Air to Air but don't go into the science of it. You would think that the more water you can shove through the IC the better, right? Nope, because it's the water's heat absorbing qualities that you want, if you keep shoving the water passed the fins too fast, it won't have the time to evaporate to cool everything down. That's basically how it works. The cold water hits the hot fins and evaporates, dissipating the heat back to the Ice Box.

An Air to Air core will work but it won't be as efficient, as it won't be able to bring temp below ambient, which is why you want the Liquid to Air in the first place, right? Better than 100% efficiency? As much as I would like to discourage you from beating me with my own setup, that fact is obviously inevitable. So, I'll try to help instead. Here's to you beating Hahn's record this year.

You've got the car to do it.

DSM-ZERO · 03-09-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rage-Tek420a

Well to answer your question no you dont need an adapter plate it bolts right up to the 420a motor. you just have to make a new tranny mount. oh and get srt axels of course and maybe spindles depending on what you already have

I would like to know more about this so called dogbox that you say you got a real good deal on.!

I can tell you its not a Rage dog box lol other than that its a secret

I figured it y=would work with an adapter plate.......But will see i might just stick with the NVt350 for right now....it has not given me any problems so far..I HOPE..

Well see on a new core im budgeting my self right now ...so i might be stuck with what i got..

DSM-ZERO · 03-13-2010, 11:53 AM

The pump im going to be using is a 55GPM Mezierre electric water pump

bullettdsm · 03-13-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DSM-ZERO

The pump im going to be using is a 55GPM Mezierre electric water pump

Mezierre's a good pump (albeit a bit on the expensive side) that'll do the trick. I used one for a little while on my set-up.

MB

96GST20g · 03-14-2010, 05:25 PM

yo Zero what all do i need to for my car i got a 60trim Turbo, wastegate and FMIC from a friend for my totaled GST. I need a part list im trying not to break the bank either so can i use stock injectors and just up grade pump or what. Im just gonna do 8psi for now

LD25Delta9 · 03-15-2010, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 96GST20g

yo Zero what all do i need to for my car i got a 60trim Turbo, wastegate and FMIC from a friend for my totaled GST. I need a part list im trying not to break the bank either so can i use stock injectors and just up grade pump or what. Im just gonna do 8psi for now

Start a new thread Hijacker.

bastarddsm · 05-10-2010, 08:22 PM

Why are you moving up to such a large turbo, you havn't even came close to the potential of the 40R you got now. What fuel are you using?

Project2G · 05-11-2010, 02:44 AM

When will it be ready for bandimere?

Boosted_talon98 · 05-11-2010, 04:29 AM

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When will it be ready for bandimere?

Mad props dsm zero. I am building a 10 second setup but yours looks like u can break 9s son

OblivioAssebit · 05-11-2010, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Project2G

When will it be ready for bandimere?

Yeah, I cant wait to see you at Bandimere. Just give me a head start!

LD25Delta9 · 05-11-2010, 10:04 AM

This sucks. I reccomended him for the featured member, he gets it, and he hasn't even been online since March. He must be deployed or something. He hasn't even been on his Myspace since March....this better not turn into a "Defiant, where are you?" thread. Either way.... When he gets back from his hiatus, he better put some mad seat time down with plenty of video. We all have our expectations now.

On another note...I thought it was funny that no one's cared about this since March...Your welcome Rob.