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Old 11-03-2008, 12:36 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #1 (permalink)
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My Talon running 10.42@138

I know this is not real big news, but after a frustrating racing season for me, this was a fun way to end the year. I hurt my race motor at the beginning of October ( 2-3-2 mis-shift ) and did not want to end the season like that. I still had my stock, original short block " retired " on a engine stand in the garage. With the help of a couple of buddies, we pulled the race motor, swapped everything onto the stock short block and re-installed it in the car. A BIG thank you to Greg Joubert ( fellow NABR member ) and Doug Elfman who helped me get the car done. I went to the track Friday night and ran:

10.60@132 ( missed 4th )
10.56@135
10.42@138.50

The block is the original one from my car, has been raced for about 11 seasons ( was pulled two years ago for a race motor). It has 600+ runs on it, multiple low 11 second runs and 15-20 ten second runs. I honestly think the car could low 10's or possibly a high 9 with more boost and a better 60'. Car weight with driver was 2996, weighed Friday.

Talon running 10.42@138 with stock short block!- Video
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Good times, man. Congrats. Is your profile up to date and how much your car weighs???
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:57 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #3 (permalink)
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Great to hear Mike! Good to see the New England guys still going strong!

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Nice one, love the no-thanks to racing engines made me laugh.

Keep up the good work.

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Way cool!!! Was that on stock cams???


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Good times, man. Congrats. Is your profile up to date and how much your car weighs???
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I Car weight with driver was 2996, weighed Friday.


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Way cool!!! Was that on stock cams???
No, HKS 280's. Here is the set up:

Stock, original, untouched short block, no balance shafts, 96k miles
FP 88HTA
AEM EMS
1000cc Injectors
BR Stage III head
BR FMIC
BR old school SMIM
Accufab 75mm TB
HKS 280's
A1000 and in-tank Cosmo pump
ACT 2600 w/ street disc
Shep Stage IV trans
Mickey Thompson ET drags


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Old 11-03-2008, 04:25 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #7 (permalink)
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Awesome!, I got the issue of you in modified, car inspired me to try and go mid to low 10s on the stock block but in a 2500lb awd car, Ill see what happens!

Screw race motors anyway! Lol.


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Old 11-03-2008, 04:37 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #9 (permalink)
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Way to go Mike! My friend just trapped 140mph this past summer with a stock 6-bolt in an awd 1G. Just goes to show you what these stock motors can do!


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What do your a/fs and your timing settings look like
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:22 AM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #11 (permalink)
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What do your a/fs and your timing settings look like

AFR's were silly rich ( low 10's ) and timing at peak boost was 10-11 degrees.


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Awesome Vid! That 4363 engine block must really be tuff!


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4-bolt rear I assume?
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What fuel do you run as well? Sorry if that has already been covered.
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Wow that makes me want to just swap an hx40 on my stock long block.


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4-bolt rear I assume?
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What fuel do you run as well? Sorry if that has already been covered.
VP C-16.


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Nice runs. I've done the 2-3-2 mis-shift before. I feel your pain.

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I was debating this with andy in another thread that a a1000 pump is enough for a hx52/hta88r turbo. I see you have a intake cosmo pump I'm not familiar with that pump but teh main pump is the a1000 correct? Do you have any lean fuel problems or lack fuel up top when at full boost on that thing?
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BR Stage III head
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BR old school SMIM
Looks like alot of Buschur Racing FTW.

Good #'s!!!

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Thats pretty good for a stock short block... It kinda reminds me of that blue EVO owned by STM, they "had" a stock short block too
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I was debating this with andy in another thread that a a1000 pump is enough for a hx52/hta88r turbo. I see you have a intake cosmo pump I'm not familiar with that pump but teh main pump is the a1000 correct? Do you have any lean fuel problems or lack fuel up top when at full boost on that thing?

The Cosmo is similar to a Supra pump. The A1000 is in-line. I have no fuel delivery issues at all. IDC's were about 85% and AFR's were in the mid 10's.


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Thats pretty good for a stock short block... It kinda reminds me of that blue EVO owned by STM, they "had" a stock short block too
No idea who STM is, but I can assure this is a stock short block. I have no reason to lie about it.


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[QUOTE=4WARND;151664332]No idea who STM is, but I can assure this is a stock short block. I have no reason to lie about it.[/QUOTE

I believe you I wasnt saying you were lying about the stock block. I just thought you knew of STM since they were running 10's on the stock short block. check them out STM - Street Tuned Motorsports.com - Rochester NY

Well they no longer have the stock bottom end anymore since it blew up, who knows what their plans are
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man that thing just digs out of the gate. what are your 60 times?

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Mike good to see you still have the car and it is running well. We..(meaning the DSM community) missed seeing you at the SO this past year, hope you can make it back to Norwalk again next year.

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I believe you I wasnt saying you were lying about the stock block. I just thought you knew of STM since they were running 10's on the stock short block. check them out STM - Street Tuned Motorsports.com - Rochester NY

Well they no longer have the stock bottom end anymore since it blew up, who knows what their plans are
Ak ok, sorry, I thought you were implying it wasn't stock when you said they " had " one to.


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man that thing just digs out of the gate. what are your 60 times?
The two in the video were low 1.5's, with a 1.52 being the best. I think it can cut some 1.4's though.


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What have you done suspension wise to the car ? It seems level with minimal squat at launch...Nice setup !!


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What have you done suspension wise to the car ? It seems level with minimal squat at launch...Nice setup !!

DSS coil over set-up with Koni yellows. It also has front / rear strut bars.


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