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Old 06-15-2008, 07:44 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:51 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Here's something for Turbo Talon DL to chew on.



EVO 3 16G Going for 10's


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Why do people enjoy pushing this small turbo past its limits? It cant be too efficient after 17-19psi. I wouldnt think pushing it past its efficiency range would be helpful.
I've been running my E316G for 2 years. It's seems plenty effecient at that psi and pulls good. But like the other guys said, it REALLY WAKES UP once you get it into the low 20's. Plus, MHI turbos have been proven to last when pushed. A fast spooling, hard hitting turbo with great street manners that can take you into the 11's. What's not to like about it?


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Why do people enjoy pushing this small turbo past its limits? It cant be too efficient after 17-19psi.
Why not? If I had the time to invest, I'd love to start with a 14B and slowly work bigger, seeing what I can extract from each turbo.

Here's what TPG Tuning did at the track with a 16G on pump gas around 27psi:
New EVO III 16g record (ET), no NO2!!!!!



....and again on the dyno:
499awhp on a 16G

Now being that there are guys out there running high 11's with GT35R's, doesn't that make you re-think your turbo choice?


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I think an 18g at the same PSI would be more efficient than an EVOIII. I havent bought temp probes and measured charge air temps or seen anybody who has with this turbo but more boost means more backpressure which means hotter engine which means head bolts stretch even with no knock. Thats just my opinion. I think the EVOIII is better suited for 20psi or less. An 18g will work better past 20psi for me. Call me overkill but I like for my parts to have 'excess capacity' so they last longer.
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In the end we are all going towards the same goal, some just find different ways to be a little more satisfying.


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Old 06-16-2008, 03:55 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I think an 18g at the same PSI would be more efficient than an EVOIII. I havent bought temp probes and measured charge air temps or seen anybody who has with this turbo but more boost means more backpressure which means hotter engine which means head bolts stretch even with no knock. Thats just my opinion. I think the EVOIII is better suited for 20psi or less. An 18g will work better past 20psi for me. Call me overkill but I like for my parts to have 'excess capacity' so they last longer.
I run a CAI, a huge intercooler, a 3" exhaust and the FP race manifold seems to help with backpressure. I don't just run all this boost, I buy mods that will make it more efficent at that boost


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Here's what TPG Tuning did at the track with a 16G on pump gas around 27psi:
While extremely badass, e85 is a completely diferent kind of "pumpgas".


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Understandable- but it IS indeed gas which originated from a pump that was intended for use in street cars.


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Understandable- but it IS indeed gas which originated from a pump that was intended for use in street cars.
It is indeed pump gas, but over here we can't get it. And it's knock prevention is FAR greater than 93 octane. e85 cars will make power of race gas cars, which is awesome... But making good power on 93 octane is a lot trickier.

I REALLY want e85 out this way... Oh man


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Yeah, I guess it would be nice.


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Wow, even thogh the temperature is rising, your lowering your times. That's awesome.

Sidebar, what size tires do you have on those EVO wheels?
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Idk I hear them dsm guys out in CA swing both ways.....they secretly like N/T's that is J/k

Edit: To the NT guy you did see Nate make 499awhp out of a 16g right
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Wow, even thogh the temperature is rising, your lowering your times. That's awesome.

Sidebar, what size tires do you have on those EVO wheels?
Yup, I want to run on a street night to help me out more.

Tires are 235/45/17" Kumho SPT's. I like them.


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Update:

Attended CCDSM's track rental yesterday. Drove the car down , made 11 passes, drove it home, no problems. Finally got that FP Race manifold on, Gotta say, it's an awesome peice. Also put on a rebuilt throttle body from Hal Landry. No real changes to my tune.

Best time was a 11.738 @ 118.52 mph. Car pulled 5 11 second passes, and the rest were low 12s. Missed 2nd a few times from too much wheel spin, but still managed 12.3-12.4's at 115mph. 17" wheels aren't really the best for drag racing...

Car is MOVING up top for a 16g car. Still on 93 octane. I think I'm shooting for 120mph traps with the cams.... Hopefully the turbo lasts though, It's been smoking I've noticed every now and then.
I-M-P-R-E-S-S-I-V-E Bro
I have a custom forced air CAI built by Wret and I'm debating on getting the 4" intercooler from ETS or the 4" race intercooler from Buschur.

Good stuff bro and keep up the good wrk.

I'm sure that CAI and 4" intercooler made all the difference in the world. People don't fully realize the importance of nice cool forced ambiant air and low IAT's.


Even more impressive to me is this just being done on a low budget(meaning basically stck motor) and a 16g. Plus you can drive your ass off!


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I wouldn't consider 118mph "not efficent".... Just me. The car is making fantastic power, if I was past it's effiency range, I wouldn't be gaining any power.

There are a few guys that run their Evo 3's up to 30psi spikes on race gas. I'd say thats closer to the limit than I am. Honestly, I'm not running that much boost compared to other guys.

I like pushing the small turbo this hard, to prove that you don't need a big turbo to go fast. I still see LOTs of 20g, 50 trims, 30r+ guys running slower than this. What's the point? When I put my Green on, It'll run just that much harder.
Exactly! Again thanks to the intercooler,CAI and a good tune!


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Why not? If I had the time to invest, I'd love to start with a 14B and slowly work bigger, seeing what I can extract from each turbo.

Here's what TPG Tuning did at the track with a 16G on pump gas around 27psi:
New EVO III 16g record (ET), no NO2!!!!!



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499awhp on a 16G

Now being that there are guys out there running high 11's with GT35R's, doesn't that make you re-think your turbo choice?
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