blue92laser
15+ Year Contributor
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- May 13, 2004
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Laurel Springs,
New Jersey
Yes, that is what I am going to dub this car, "The Evil Talon", because since day one it has been nothing but problems. Name it, we've had a problem with it. Timing was off about 4-5 teeth when we got the car. The tranny liked to move around an inch away from the motor since it only had 2 loose bolts in it when we got it. A nice size hole in the block, gave a nice sized puddle of oil wherever we sat the car. The axle was never secured down with the bracket, so it fell out, leaving the tranny fluid everywhere. A couple of good boost leaks. A turbo that seriously has more shaft play than I have ever seen and it still works, but burns crazy oil. Toasted valve seals when we got the car, did that by hand with 2 sockets. The actuator arm only had one bolt and one loose bolt holdin it, so the boost was slowly over time not going over 10psi.
Even through all that we were able to get the car to run a 13.7.
Last night was different. I'll set the mood. Late afternoon, early evening, the rain clouds come out and it starts to spit little rain drops onto the window of my work building. I thought to myself, damn, after all that hard work, we don't even get to run the talon. I turn to the counter and shrug and boom, I'm nailed with a beam of light, the sun decided to come back out.
I arrived at atco just slightly past 7:30, the races were well under the way and the talon was filled with some 110 octane fuel. As the car rolled through the staging lanes up to the tree, it looked and sounded good. Blowing oil out of the tail pipe wasnt a good sign but I knew it was the turbo. The car came out of the hole hard, but bounced around like a sloppy jalopy with the 4 blown struts, and went into 2nd a little rough and bounced around a bit. 13.7, not too bad on 15psi. The 60 footer could of used some work, it was a high 1.8 and the 1/8th mile was way to high 8.6.
We let it cool and back down to the pit it goes. The car rolls through a puddle of water put there by some idiot that didnt realize this was an AWD car. So of course, now we get to launch it through the pit to burn off some of the water. 6,000 rpm and a decent clutch slip sent the car sideways popping off the limiter. The crowd reacts. A good reaction. Some bluw smoke and you can here the smerks in the crowd that the car is going to blow up. Again, it left the hole bouncing around but trapped a 13.4 this time, with a very decent power shift into 2nd. Only at 94mph though...hmmm something aint right.
As the car is cooling, I am going over things with the driver. He's a novice (the owner of the car) and is getting too excited. He's not watching guages and I'm gettin no feed back on the car. This time around he watched where he was shifting, 7,000 rpm every gear even third gear into 4th. And hes launching at 5500rpm, and he says it bogs before it takes off. I say, this time around launch it higher and slip it more. I told him, dont go on Green, go when ready, thats when the time starts. The boost controller gets turned up, not too much cause I can't tell.
Staging the car was difficult again, its even wetter in the pits now cause of this idiot that keeps spraying water for these AWD cars. But again, we got to do a 4 wheel burn out and thats always cool, haha, not really something good but the trans is in real good condition so its nothing to worry bout. More smerks emerge as its staged because of the blue smoke. Out fo the hole it goes and into 2nd gear, awesome launch but nothing in 2nd...no power, no moving. No smoke. over a minute later the car gimps down the track, bucking violently. Evrything is goign through my head, center diff, intercooler, intake, blah blah blah. Intercooler pipeing came loose, put a nice ding in the hood
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Final run of the night, the lanes are closed and only a few street cars remain. I take a sniff into the air and its cooler, cool enough to turn that boost up a pound or 2 more. 19-20psi, were going all out on this run. Left the hole at 6,000 rpm, the car squatted and moved forward without bouncing, you could here the power transfer from 7,000 rpm down into 2nd gear. Another nice click into 3rd and a click into 4th gear sent the talon through the traps at 13.2 @ 101.5 mph. That time he shifted all gears but 3rd at redline.
The timing was advanced to about 7 degrees, and the final boost was around 20psi. The owner of the car said it was making really good power and was never falling off, I guess the 110 octane was helping out real nice.
the mods on the car follow
ported evo 3 housing
1g manifold ported
1g o2 housing ported
3 inch through a apex-i muffler
14b turbo
2.5 in. upper intercooler pipe
SMIC
255lp pump (supposedly)
relocated battery
full interior
K&N air filter
hacked MAS
bored .20 over motor with 2g pistons
I just want to know if I can get anymore tips on shifting points or anything. Sorry for the long post but I figured I'd make a cool little story out of it. The car really has given us all hell since day one and finally not a drip of oil comes off the motor.
thanks for reading and helping
Even through all that we were able to get the car to run a 13.7.
Last night was different. I'll set the mood. Late afternoon, early evening, the rain clouds come out and it starts to spit little rain drops onto the window of my work building. I thought to myself, damn, after all that hard work, we don't even get to run the talon. I turn to the counter and shrug and boom, I'm nailed with a beam of light, the sun decided to come back out.
I arrived at atco just slightly past 7:30, the races were well under the way and the talon was filled with some 110 octane fuel. As the car rolled through the staging lanes up to the tree, it looked and sounded good. Blowing oil out of the tail pipe wasnt a good sign but I knew it was the turbo. The car came out of the hole hard, but bounced around like a sloppy jalopy with the 4 blown struts, and went into 2nd a little rough and bounced around a bit. 13.7, not too bad on 15psi. The 60 footer could of used some work, it was a high 1.8 and the 1/8th mile was way to high 8.6.
We let it cool and back down to the pit it goes. The car rolls through a puddle of water put there by some idiot that didnt realize this was an AWD car. So of course, now we get to launch it through the pit to burn off some of the water. 6,000 rpm and a decent clutch slip sent the car sideways popping off the limiter. The crowd reacts. A good reaction. Some bluw smoke and you can here the smerks in the crowd that the car is going to blow up. Again, it left the hole bouncing around but trapped a 13.4 this time, with a very decent power shift into 2nd. Only at 94mph though...hmmm something aint right.
As the car is cooling, I am going over things with the driver. He's a novice (the owner of the car) and is getting too excited. He's not watching guages and I'm gettin no feed back on the car. This time around he watched where he was shifting, 7,000 rpm every gear even third gear into 4th. And hes launching at 5500rpm, and he says it bogs before it takes off. I say, this time around launch it higher and slip it more. I told him, dont go on Green, go when ready, thats when the time starts. The boost controller gets turned up, not too much cause I can't tell.
Staging the car was difficult again, its even wetter in the pits now cause of this idiot that keeps spraying water for these AWD cars. But again, we got to do a 4 wheel burn out and thats always cool, haha, not really something good but the trans is in real good condition so its nothing to worry bout. More smerks emerge as its staged because of the blue smoke. Out fo the hole it goes and into 2nd gear, awesome launch but nothing in 2nd...no power, no moving. No smoke. over a minute later the car gimps down the track, bucking violently. Evrything is goign through my head, center diff, intercooler, intake, blah blah blah. Intercooler pipeing came loose, put a nice ding in the hood
.Final run of the night, the lanes are closed and only a few street cars remain. I take a sniff into the air and its cooler, cool enough to turn that boost up a pound or 2 more. 19-20psi, were going all out on this run. Left the hole at 6,000 rpm, the car squatted and moved forward without bouncing, you could here the power transfer from 7,000 rpm down into 2nd gear. Another nice click into 3rd and a click into 4th gear sent the talon through the traps at 13.2 @ 101.5 mph. That time he shifted all gears but 3rd at redline.
The timing was advanced to about 7 degrees, and the final boost was around 20psi. The owner of the car said it was making really good power and was never falling off, I guess the 110 octane was helping out real nice.
the mods on the car follow
ported evo 3 housing
1g manifold ported
1g o2 housing ported
3 inch through a apex-i muffler
14b turbo
2.5 in. upper intercooler pipe
SMIC
255lp pump (supposedly)
relocated battery
full interior
K&N air filter
hacked MAS
bored .20 over motor with 2g pistons
I just want to know if I can get anymore tips on shifting points or anything. Sorry for the long post but I figured I'd make a cool little story out of it. The car really has given us all hell since day one and finally not a drip of oil comes off the motor.
thanks for reading and helping
. also i am very pissted i wasted my time reading this tread. 
that e.t. is right in line with the mph so thats some good driving. i ran that exact same e.t./mph in my old eclipse with nothing but a knob style afc, 3" turboback, and a 190 FP. everything else *BONE STOCK*. that was at 4500 ft too. my point is that youve still got some headroom left in the car. just stay at it and keep tuning and you should be able to run mid 12s with that setup. good luck.
