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07-18-2012, 09:39 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
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piston sizes
So I finally got my 0.040 over pistons last night and I brought them to work along with the old stock pistons and connecting rods. I'm punching out the wrist pins so I can give the rods and new pistons to the machine shop after work. Any how, I decided just to compare the pistons to each other and they honestly don't look different in diameter. There is a noticeable difference, but not much. Due to this I looked up specs for both and the stock are supposed to be 85mm and the 0.040 over 86mm. I measured each with a digital caliper and got 84.46mm for the stock one and 85.24 for the new one. Are these correct numbers for their sizes? I know they won't be the 85 & 86mm (respectively) due to needing room for rings in the cylinders, but over half a mm smaller than the bore? Is that right?
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'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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07-18-2012, 10:36 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
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No, I measured at the top of the dome. Didn't know where else to measure. Guess I was wrong.
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'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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07-18-2012, 10:41 AM
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DSM Wiseman

Car: 1985 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
From: Pensacola, Florida
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Yes you measured wrong. We all have to learn.
Measure again and post back what you find.
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07-18-2012, 10:56 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
From: ColoradoSprings, Colorado
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Yep, we all do learn  Which spot am I supposed to measure though for the diameter? I'm not sure by that spec sheet.
Wait, is the diameter determined by measuring 90° of wrist pin but on the skirt itself?
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'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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07-18-2012, 11:00 AM
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DSM Wiseman

Car: 1985 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
From: Pensacola, Florida
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Yes measure on the skirt, that is the widest point of the piston.
The piston in the "How to" I linked is not a DSM piston, just an example so you can see where to measure.
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07-18-2012, 11:03 AM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
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Sweet. I'll measure again here in a little while and let you know. Thanks.
Much better numbers. Got 84.96mm for stock, and 85.94mm for the new. Thanks for your help.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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07-18-2012, 11:30 AM
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DSM Wiseman

Car: 1985 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
From: Pensacola, Florida
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86mm x .03937 = 3.3858 This is your finished bore size
85.94mm x .03937 = 3.38345 This is the true piston size
So 3.386 - 3.3835 = .0025 PTW This is what you should end up with for PTW
Boosted, then they were not .040 over, either boxed wrong, or were measured wrong
STD bore size is 85mm x .03937 = 3.3465
.040 = 1mm (.03937)
so your 86.5mm would be .060 over
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07-18-2012, 12:58 PM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
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So are you saying they're not 0.040 over? They are stamped with 0.040 over markings.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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07-18-2012, 01:19 PM
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DSM Wiseman

Car: 1985 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
From: Pensacola, Florida
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Spyder... The last part of my post was for BoostedTsi
But the top part was for you.
yes you have 1mm/.040 pistons, the math proves that.
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07-18-2012, 01:36 PM
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From: Amarillo, Texas
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Thanks for that bogus i actually did not know it that way, thanks alot for the classification, im glad im still young lol
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07-18-2012, 02:28 PM
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Car: 1997 Talon TSi Spyder
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Sounds good. Didn't know he posted either.
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-Dag
'97 Talon TSi Spyder (AWD coming soon)
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