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Old 09-25-2003, 09:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question someone sells a 1G Manifold spacer, why not adapter for 1G intake on 2G head

Hey, i see that http://www.taboospeedshop.com/index.htm sells an intake manifold spacer thats 1/2 inch for a 1G

Why doesnt someone make one for a 2G? If I could I would use a 2G spacer(if someone makes it) then port is out on one side so that a 1G manifold could fit in a 2G car with semi smoothed airflow

When i did my TB elbow, I didnt need 1/2 inch deep to make 52mm 60mm

Sorry if this was already covered. I didnt see anything when I searched putting a 1G intake on a 2G car
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Old 09-25-2003, 09:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That is a flange so you can make your own manifold. Not a spacer.
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Old 09-25-2003, 09:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Darn it! Then someone should make a spacer.... then I would dremmel it out and put my 1G intake on my 2G car.
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Old 09-27-2003, 08:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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FRH sells spacers


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Old 09-27-2003, 01:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Somebody does make a 1g manifold to 2g head spacer that tapers small as it goes towards the head.

Found it, here you go: http://www.gopartstrader.com/cgi-bin...75e0663a6b4b16

Pics here: http://www.unix-networking.com/pics/forsale/1.jpg

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Old 09-28-2003, 07:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info
Hey, I bought the part. Hopefully I can get everything installed.
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Old 09-28-2003, 10:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
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IS THAT PLASTIC?? Won't that shit melt like a mofo once the engine gets to operating temp?

n/m strike that i re-read the ad and it's phenolic. Sry


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Old 09-29-2003, 02:10 AM   #8 (permalink)
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That's pretty cool! now the question is, has anyone tried it and got some good results?


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Old 09-29-2003, 06:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Its a phelonic Resin. I will use a heat gun on it to test it first
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Old 09-29-2003, 07:34 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Its a phelonic Resin. I will use a heat gun on it to test it first
I wouldnt you might warp it because the heat will be uneven.

Dont worry about it just make sure everything seals good.
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Old 09-29-2003, 01:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Its a phelonic Resin. I will use a heat gun on it to test it first
They make brake caliper pistons out of that material. Just put it on.
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Old 10-03-2003, 01:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey, this is the guy that made the spacer in question. I talked at great length with the plastic supplier to make sure the material is up to the task and capable of handling the heat. They assured me it was, it is glass based and flame resistant and will have no problems in this application.
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What a joke. Just do a 1G head. All your gains are in intake ports on a head. If the intake ports on the head are still the same how do expect by adding a 1G intake manifold will help any, your still pushing the same amount of air through the head. Port the head then add your intake manifold, or just add the 1G head. I love it when people try to take short cuts and find minimal to almost no gains with bolt on ideas.


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Old 10-05-2003, 06:16 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The gain is from the larger Surge Tank. How would Magnus motorsports intake manifold add more power without a ported head? Why does a car benifit from more Boost, if the head will only flow a small amount?

Just because the Head is small does nto mean it wont benifit from a larger Manifold.

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Part of the gains from going to a SM intake is the shorter runners. By adding a spacer you're also adding length. And there is still a quick change in runner size, which disrupts flow.


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Old 10-08-2003, 01:11 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I bet it would work really good, that way you would have a bigger intake and still have high port velocity.

tqlla lets us know how it goes.

I ahve heard people like the 2g magnus intake a lot also.
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Old 10-08-2003, 04:10 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I will let you guys know. But first I need to get my AF sensor installed. This part should also help because it will absorb the heat from the Head, instead of transfering it to the intake.

THis will allow me to keep my power longer.
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Old 10-09-2003, 01:17 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I hope your installing a greddy af sensor, if it is an autometer send it back, because it is just for show.
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Old 10-09-2003, 06:43 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Its a greddy, which is why I havent installed it yet. I know that people say its inaccurate and stuff. But I figure, I can watch it, and make sure the car has the same ratio after I install the FPR and the Manifold
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I ahve heard the greddy is great for what your trying.
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I have a greddy af gauge. IMO, and it's just a more expensive version of the autometer gauge. It's not accurate worth a damn, but it looks good though! It runs off of a narrowband o2 sensor. Some people say it's accurate, but not for me. Once the weather changes, the readings change, just like your o2 readings.


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Looks like Delrin...


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I have a greddy af gauge. IMO, and it's just a more expensive version of the autometer gauge. It's not accurate worth a damn, but it looks good though! It runs off of a narrowband o2 sensor. Some people say it's accurate, but not for me. Once the weather changes, the readings change, just like your o2 readings.
Okay, well yeah it should be changing. I dont really think you understand how air fuel ratio works, on a cold day you might actually be running leaner. Don't blame the guage just because it doesnt read the same thing every day.

People have put it up against a wide band and compared and it is pretty close. More than close enough to help you tune.

It is definantly better than buying an EGT gauge.
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