Down to 3 Turbos Need help

[snipe99999]

Her are the 3 turbos that I would like to choose from. I need help trying to figure out which one. They are all bolt on.

1. BIG T28 KILLER - (Extreme PSI)
"This is a brand new turbo garret! Directly bolt on! Big T28 Killer uses stage 2 T28 turbine wheels with a big 16g Compressor wheel! This turbo also has a larger compressor housing than your typical big T28."
Supports up to 380HP.

2. SBR-2GB16G - (Slow Boy Racing)
"This turbo uses a modified t3 compressor cover with a 2 5/8" inlet, a big 16g compressor wheel, brand new Mitsubishi center section, a tdo5h turbine wheel, and a 7cm2 turbine housing. It comes fully ported with the 34 mm flapper mod already installed. Install, and enjoy!"
Supports up to ?????

3. FP-BIG28 - (Forced Performance)
"The FP-Big28 uses modified T25 compressor and turbine housings, which means this turbo could trick its mamma into thinking it was a T25. Don't let that cute little shell fool you, however, because on the inside it's 100% pure evil. We carefully selected a compressor and turbine combination that provide massive flow capabilities and very little back pressure. Doesn't sound like a big deal? Did we mention it makes full boost in just a hair over 3000rpm, and holds solid all the way to redline?"
Supports up to ??????

I am getting one of these ASAP let me know which one to get. My mods are in my profile but I have everything but the FMIC. I will be getting the 550cc injectors at the same time as the turbo. I really have no idea which one to pick please help.

Thanks in advance,
Ian

 

[NOAHSR10]

im guessing that you will be doing the install yourself, due to all ur choices being direct bolt ons. Since you have FWD, i would go with the 16g. The t-28/t-28 killer spools up way to fast for a FWD car and all you will be doing is spinning the tires.

I have the killer and i do love it. its been two weeks, and yes i do want bigger. Id suggest a sbr2g20g. slower spool, and more power. if yuo do decide to get that one tho, id go with bigger injectors then 550s

 

[snipe99999]

Any other thoughts?

 

[Slappster]

Get a bolt on 50 trim for the same price of those turbos.

 

[snipe99999]

The only problem is that I don't have enough money for the front mount and a new clutch to support the 50 trim. The reason that I am picking a smaller turbo is because I should be OK with the stock clutch for a while and they will run on the side mount for a while also.

 

[Groomz]

I have a 2G FWD and plan to run the SBR 2g20G turbo. It has 400hp capability and is ported and has the 34mm flapper mod. It won't spool as fast as the B16G or the T28 Killer, but on an FWD, fast spool could mean losing traction. Go for the 2g20G turbo and let me know what its like ( I don't have 900$ right now )

 

[TRBOTSI]

Gte the 16G, those 28's aren't worth shite

 

[NOAHSR10]

its all about the tuning. A tuned t-28 is better then a slapped on 16/20g neday

 

[TRBOTSI]

Originally posted by NOAHSR10
its all about the tuning. A tuned t-28 is better then a slapped on 16/20g neday

Really, show me some numbers. Don't be such a tool and say "it's all about tuning" and try and justify a POS turbo's worth. And of course a tuned setup is better than a thrown together untuned setup. A tuned 14b car with basic mods will run circles around a 56 trim fully prepped untuned car. 16G's have consistently run faster than Big28's, T28's, etc, etc..

 

[snipe99999]

So does everyone think the SBR-2GB16G is the right choice? I go to the track 3 times a year I just want something that will be much faster then the T25 and be able to hold it's own against stangs and other V8's out there.

 

[Groomz]

Even at the same boost levels you would gain power from the 16G turbo. Its more efficient than a T25. I have heard good things about the SBR 2g16G turbo and I would highly recommend it. And as for tuning, if you only tuned your car, it would be better than just slapping a bigger turbo on it. Thats what the sig's about.

 

[Big Woo]

If I must choose from the list then get the 16g, FWD no problem.

 

[Groomz]

Originally posted by TRBOTSI
Really, show me some numbers. Don't be such a tool and say "it's all about tuning" and try and justify a POS turbo's worth. And of course a tuned setup is better than a thrown together untuned setup. A tuned 14b car with basic mods will run circles around a 56 trim fully prepped untuned car. 16G's have consistently run faster than Big28's, T28's, etc, etc..

http://farnorthracing.com/wastegate_actuator.html

Thats what a T28 can do.

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

EvoIII 16G! Roughly the same price as the T28's with porting and install kit with more topend. Check out Slowboy Racing for everything you'll need...


2G Install Kit
Porting
34mm Wastegate Upgrade
Evo3 16G

838.00 before shipping..

 

[jake98gst]

Why are you so opposed to the not direct bolt on methods lik 16g's and what not. A t28 costs somewhere in the area of 700-900 new, without looking. Any of the 16g's are the just as expensive as the t28s even after figuring in the install kit. Evo III 16g is 560. SBR install kit is 200. Porting is 50 or so. All together 810 for a turbo that is the shit!! So you don't have a fmic or injectors or what not, any of the other 16g's are even cheaper and will prepare your setup for a larger 50 trim or whatever later.

just my opinion,
Jake

 

[RuBiCaNT5X]

It's all about preference I guess.. I think the EvoIII has more top end potential than any of the BigT28's do. If you are like most people, however, you'll probably want to upgrade after you have it for a while... If you have the cash, I would get everything you need for a 50 trim first and then buy that... Short list includes..

FMIC
660cc Injectors
SAFC/2 or DSMLink
ARP Headstuds
EGT Gauge
255 lph Fuel Pump
AFPR

 

[herostar]

Originally posted by TRBOTSI
Gte the 16G, those 28's aren't worth shite

Where's your proof? You have a 1g so you obviously havent' tried both turbos. The reason you see so many better times w/ 16g turbos is because they've been around for 15 years, where as the t28's are barely a year old. Cars have run low 12's and even 11's with t28 variant turbo's so don't speak up unless you know ALL your facts. And work on your grammar.

 

[heavyD]

Originally posted by herostar
Where's your proof? You have a 1g so you obviously havent' tried both turbos. The reason you see so many better times w/ 16g turbos is because they've been around for 15 years, where as the t28's are barely a year old. Cars have run low 12's and even 11's with t28 variant turbo's so don't speak up unless you know ALL your facts. And work on your grammar.

I second that motion!

 

[NosLaser]

Originally posted by snipe99999
The only problem is that I don't have enough money for the front mount and a new clutch to support the 50 trim. The reason that I am picking a smaller turbo is because I should be OK with the stock clutch for a while and they will run on the side mount for a while also.

Originally posted by snipe99999
So does everyone think the SBR-2GB16G is the right choice? I go to the track 3 times a year I just want something that will be much faster then the T25 and be able to hold it's own against stangs and other V8's out there.

Snipe, God bless you! I want all the rest of the DSM community to look at his above statements and LEARN something. I wish more people out there were like you Snipe. Finally, a DSM'er that has REALISTIC goals, and understands the concept of needing supporting mods in order to take advantage of a larger turbo. Snipe, I think the 16g is a great choice for you, and I wish you all the luck in the world in getting your car where you want it. Whichever turbo you go with, look into getting a set of 550's and an AFC because the car will like the extra fuel to compliment the turbo upgrade. Anything else I can help you with, let me know.

Regards,

 

[NosLaser]

Whoa, just noticed someone brought this thread back from the dead, and Snipe has already chosen a turbo. Either way, it's still a good lesson to be learned.

Regards,

 

[s4audia]

I have a FPT28 so I can tell you it is a definate improvement over the stock T25, but you will get bored quick trust me. One month after having mine and I was ready for something bigger.

 

[mrcivicsi2k]

people who down the t-28's are idiots and have probably never been around one for instance to the person who said they spool up faster than 16g so you will spin worse, they only spool up a couple of hundred rpm's faster and the big 28 which i have flows the same 550cfm as the big 16g so there goes everyones theory about them "not being worth a shit so go with a 16g because i am even dumber than i make my self sound and like to run my mouth about things i dont even know about" trust me you will love the t28 as step up from the t25 its perfect for a FUN daily driven car and if you want to install it yourself its a bolt on turbo so obviously.. and for people that are still going to run there mouths about the t28 i have 130k miles on my car and cant drive worth a crap and my first time at the track with mine i ran 3 passes all three 8.44's on pump gas running very very rich
and just to you know its potential on one of those three passes i out ran a mustang gt on a 100 shot

 

[joeracer321]

I would choose none of those, there are far better turbos and you probably won't be happy once you get the support mods. Get a turbo that has some room to grow like a bolt on garret. They are quite reasonable once you consider the install kit and various other things needed for a 16g, and after its all said and done it's still a 16g. For the same price as a clipped, ported, big wastegate, install kit 16g, you could have a t04b with a 38mm internal wastegate. Search out like dsm t3/t4 you'll find a few.

 

[RedTurboEclipse]

bolt on 50 trim..

 

[yo2001]

people gets over excited with a 50 trim. It's not for everyone. it'll make power but only if you can afford to have all the supporting mods to go with it. And 50 trim supporting mods are expen$ive. That's my experience.