dsmlink or profec e-01

[j_woody]

ok, I am going to order either a dsmlink engine management system or a greddy profec e-01. I will be getting both but which should i get first?

my boost guage is broken (just out of whack, sits at 10in hg of vaccum when the car is off) so the profec would be nice since it is a digital boost guage, but i could tune to o2 readings with the dsmlink, and keep it safe. I also do not have a boost controller in the car right now, it is still a pretty stock car. boost runs about 14psi right now.

mods: bov, intake, 2.5" exhaust, greddy intercooler pipes, and some of the free mods.

 

[irn__man]

Originally posted by j_woody
ok, I am going to order either a dsmlink engine management system or a greddy profec e-01. I will be getting both but which should i get first?

my boost guage is broken (just out of whack, sits at 10in hg of vaccum when the car is off) so the profec would be nice since it is a digital boost guage, but i could tune to o2 readings with the dsmlink, and keep it safe. I also do not have a boost controller in the car right now, it is still a pretty stock car. boost runs about 14psi right now.

mods: bov, intake, 2.5" exhaust, greddy intercooler pipes, and some of the free mods.

Don't you also have to get the E-manage System to go along with the Profec e-01?

 

[TotalEclipse112]

I am pretty sure that you can use either on by itself, but if you have the profec-01 you can use the display that it comes with to tune the e-manage without the use of a lap-top.I could be wrong but I am almost 100% sure on this one.Because the profec-01 is a boost controler and the e-manage is a fuel system tuner.Put them together and it almost functions as a stand alone.

 

[Tallen]

Originally posted by TotalEclipse112
I am pretty sure that you can use either on by itself, but if you have the profec-01 you can use the display that it comes with to tune the e-manage without the use of a lap-top.I could be wrong but I am almost 100% sure on this one.Because the profec-01 is a boost controler and the e-manage is a fuel system tuner.Put them together and it almost functions as a stand alone.

That about sums it up.

 

[Cirus_93TSI]

without the e-manage the profec e-01 is nothing more then a boost controler with a fancy screen, and if u had an e-manage u would have no need for a dsmlink, u only need 1 or the other, not both, its a pointless waste of money to buy a boost controler with an lcd screen that can control the e-manage only to get the dsmlink instead of the e-manage
decide if u want the dsmlink or the e-manage system, if u want the dsm link buy that and ditch the idea of getting a prefec 01 and get a regular profec b for a boost controler, or decide u want the e-manage and get that and the profec e-01 and ditch the idea of having a dsm link

 

[Slappster]

Aem Ems is better for some more dough.

 

[j_woody]

have any of you actually seen the e-01 work? it is like a logger for boost. It is also a digital boost guage. I would then take out my boost gauge (which is out of calibration and basically useless right now) and have only the egt guage.

if i got a boost guage and a normal profec it would be the same price and seems pointless to me when i could get it all in one package, with some additional features for the same price.

so........i am getting the e-01 and the dsmlink...

which should i get first?

 

[Violater101]

AEM is not better for the average person and it still has alot of bugs with it. I don't have any experience with the E-Manage, but the DSMlink does work well. Very user friendly. If you looking to go balls out at the track, then the AEM might be a better choice, but you need to pay to have someone good install it and make sure you have all the bugs worked out.

 

[DCJ98GST]

But the greddy system does not log knock, right. That alone would sway me away from the e-manage.

 

[MNGSX]

Link has been on 10 second cars.

The E mange is better than other piggy backs... it is still a piggy back.

The OE ECU does run boost control. I think the folks at link ought to look into how to do it right with it.

V2 has got everything it needs. Real MAP sensor input, BCS output.

They got rid of the BCS flicker not make it so we can control when it goes on.

Since link can datalog a MAP sensor it is "like a logger for boost" too.

Absolute pressure is PSIG plus atmospheric. So they could even have it subtract baro sensor from map.

 

[loreak]

i think the e-01 looks kickass, if i were picking between which one of those first, i would get the dsmlink first and just use a temp mbc until you can get the e-01

 

[j_woody]

Originally posted by loreak
i think the e-01 looks kickass, if i were picking between which one of those first, i would get the dsmlink first and just use a temp mbc until you can get the e-01

the only problem with that is that i do not have a boost guage that works now so i would be boosting blind. but could i just control everything with my dsmlink just to keep it safe until i get the e-01?

 

[flinguist]

Buy a boost gauge. You can get one for $30.http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Turbo_Boost&Series=Vision&Cart= I've got the 30"to 25 psi and it works well.

 

[j_woody]

i just placed the order for both the dsmlink and e-01. will post pics of e-01 (gonna glass it into my dash where the center vents used to be along with my egt guage.)

should be fun after i get my intake/downpipe/e-01/link installed and tuned.

 

[Cirus_93TSI]

i cant see how this is a hard decision, the dsmlink is a much better purchase
but if you are going to get the profec e-01 then y would u get a dsm link when the e-manage is basicaly the exact same thing and you can use the e-01 as its display?
e manage and dsmlink are both pigy back engint management systems, neither are a standalone, both still need the ecu, they do just about the exact same things

it just seems pretty dumb to buy a $300+ booost controler and guage that is made to control the e-,anage, then let that go to waste as nothing more then an extremely overpriced boost guage and get the dsmlink instead of the e-manage to go with it

 

[j_woody]

heres how i saw it......300 for profec b. 180 for greddy boost guage. so why not spend 500 and get them together. and dsmlink is far better tahn emanage as far as installation and function goes.

 

[brads]

Originally posted by Cirus_93TSI

e manage and dsmlink are both pigy back engint management systems, neither are a standalone, both still need the ecu, they do just about the exact same things

DSMLink isn't a piggyback. Do some research on it. The emanage and dsmlink may seem to do some of the same stuff, but they do it in vastly different ways.


http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51896

 

[Rick@AP]

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[Rick@AP]

DSMLink isn't a piggyback. Do some research on it. The emanage and dsmlink may seem to do some of the same stuff, but they do it in vastly different ways.

The DSMLink IS a piggyback. Its certianly not a standalone. In order for it to qualify for that it would have to replace the ECU all together and control all the aspects that the original ECU did.

Both the E-manage and DSMLink are piggybacks. I think that the DSMLink is much more refined and gives much more control in what it does as a piggyback.

 

[Kevin Jewer]

Anyone who calls the DSMlink a piggyback needs to get some more education on the subject. Just because it is not a standalone does not automatically make it a piggy back. Piggy backs lie to the ECU about one of these things. Airflow, baro pressure, intake temp, or crank angle position. DSMlink does none of these. Piggy backs are attached to stock ECUs in order to manipulate the inputs given to it. All changes are made INSIDE the stock ECU with DSMlink. Its not a standalone, its not a piggy back, its a DSMlink.

 

[heavyD]

I have an e-01 and quite like it. Check out my pics. I don't have the e-manage yet so it is basically a ritsy boost controller. I got a smokin deal on it ($385 U.S.) as it was a return. It does have more features than your average boost controller though and the display looks good installed.

 

[brads]

Originally posted by Rick@AP

Both the E-manage and DSMLink are piggybacks. I think that the DSMLink is much more refined and gives much more control in what it does as a piggyback.

A piggyback works around the stock ECU limitations, either by adjusting the inputs to fool the stock ECU(like an AFC, or emanage) to get the desired results, or by adjusting the outputs after the ECU(like emanage does with the optional injector harness). DSMLink doesn't even come close to fitting that description. The stock ECU is modified with new code, so that it behaves differently. No fooling of stock ECU there. Like I said, go read and learn

Brad