What EBC are you using and what are your likes and dislikes

[jdmawd]

Im interested in a EBC that will simply regulate at least 30 psi. I dont care about any other bells and whistles just a simple EBC that will regulate whatever boost level i set it to.

In addition to the above for those that have EBC's what are your likes and dislikes about whatever you have thanks

 

[rdrkt]

I have seen a lot of EBC over that past year or so. Most were top notch big dollar units. NONE of them worked anywhere as well as a simple cheap MBC. By as well I mean spool the turbo as fast or ripping your hair out trying to get it to work. They all required a HUGE wastegate spring to run properly.

I remember LarryD had a profec B and he had a hell of a time getting it to run more than 20lbs and I’m pretty sure he had a 1bar spring in at the time.

Back in the day I had an AVC-R with an internally gated 16g and it didn’t hold boost very well and required a lot of programming. Which sucked.

The only EBC that I have ever seen that works well in multiple cars with multiple setups is the EVC-EZ but to run 30lbs you would still need at least a 1 bar spring if not a 18lb spring.

I am getting tired of stopping the car and burning my fingers every time I need to change the boost. I have considered picking up an EVC-EZ on the used market but I have heard boost response isn’t as nice as with a MBC. The product that really has my interest right now is the Hallman MBC that has cockpit adjustability. I know that Eclipse 4x4 has one and he likes it. The only thing that I would be concerned about would be boost response with all that extra hose. I’m hoping one of my friends will pic one up soon so I can see a back to back test on the track and street.

 

[44pirate]

I've got an old Blitz SBC boost controller with a hi and lo setting. I get 14psi with my low setting and 21psi on my hi setting. The lo setting is turned all the way up. The hi setting is not 3/4. At 3/4 setting it gets me 24psi. I love it works great easy to install.

 

[bull999999]

I used to have HKS EBC-EZ for the Stealth TT and I liked it. It was once of the cheaper EBCs out there and it's easy to use as well. Just a power button and a knob.

From my personal experience, I found that EBCs have better response than MBCs because unlike MBCs, EBCs hold the signal to the wastegate until the set boost instead of just bleeding the signal.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by bull999999

From my personal experience, I found that EBCs have better response than MBCs because unlike MBCs, EBCs hold the signal to the wastegate until the set boost instead of just bleeding the signal.

That's why I want one but I have no use for the other carp associated with them, And im sick of roasting my fingers

 

[sunflashx]

The new ProfecB Spec II is supposed to handle higher boost than the old model. It will supposedly handle up to 43 psi. At 23 psi I am at 54% or so on the digital knob so that sounds about right.

Has more features than the old Profec B and takes a while to figure out. Once you get it all sorted out though it's almost as easy to manage as the old one. It's more precise with digital settings of the "nobs" of which there is only really one, but does the same function as the old ones multiple nobs.

It will work as a boost/vacuum gauge and display in PSI, and has features that revolve around actions happening at a certain psi, but for some reason you can't just set the target PSI and have it maintain it. Boost is set by a percentage of duty cycle of the solenoid.

Boost gauge feature has a peak hold memory and displays psi to the tenth. (21.6 psi, 23.4 psi, etc.) Kind of nice.

I'm using a 1 bar spring and both nipples on the WG. I've had it up to 23 psi and had no issues. I hated it at first but now I have it working like the old one, just turning the nob up or down.

 

[jdmawd]

Originally posted by sunflashx
but for some reason you can't just set the target PSI and have it maintain it.

That's the garbage im talking about, my turbo spools to rapidly to have some EBC ####ing with the wastegate.


The reason i want a EBC is becasue i have noticed that with my MBC if i set boost to say 25 psi it spools up to 20 on its way to 25 much quicker then it does when its set to open at say 20 psi.I cant have an EBC that pics its own boost level

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[bull999999]

Originally posted by jdmawd



That's why I want one but I have no use for the other carp associated with them, And im sick of roasting my fingers

Then the HKS unit may be perfact for you. All you need is to turn the dial and your max boost with an aftermarket boost guage doing WOT in 3rd gear.

 

[44pirate]

Originally posted by bull999999

Then the HKS unit may be perfact for you. All you need is to turn the dial and your max boost with an aftermarket boost guage doing WOT in 3rd gear.

Blitz works the same way.

 

[rdrkt]

Originally posted by 44pirate

Originally posted by bull999999
Then the HKS unit may be perfact for you. All you need is to turn the dial and your max boost with an aftermarket boost guage doing WOT in 3rd gear.

Blitz works the same way.

That's all you have to do to any EBC though. Dial in wastegate duty cycle.

 

[98RedGs]

http://www.joepmbc.com/embc.htm

Thats a link to joe p's new E-MBC.

I dont have much more information on it but i know they have been getting them over at dsmtalk.com for a while and they are loving them to death!

Now hes behind on orders because he didnt think there would be such an overwhelming need for the item.

 

[bull999999]

Originally posted by 98RedGs
http://www.joepmbc.com/embc.htm

Thats a link to joe p's new E-MBC.

I dont have much more information on it but i know they have been getting them over at dsmtalk.com for a while and they are loving them to death!

Now hes behind on orders because he didnt think there would be such an overwhelming need for the item.

$225 is an excellent price for an EBC. I may consider it over HKS unit for my Laser if the reviews are good.

 

[peregrine]

if you can find an old apex avc-d those work great. i ran anywhere from 15 psi to 25 psi no problem. lots of neat little features too.

 

[Violater101]

Not to hijack your thread, but while we are on the subject of EBC's, how much quicker RPM wise would you say a MBC spools on a 50trim t3/t4 style turbo? Also, how much of a difference is the hose coming from the wg to the EBC's "Black Box" going to matter? Right now, I have the Profec B and it works fine. No Creep or Spike. However, I have the box mounted on the passenger side underneath my air filter. This means that my hoses are fairly lengthy. If I reduced the length of the hose by half, would that make a big difference in Spool Up time (100-200 rpms?) I am leaning towards moving it over on the driver's side by the power steering fluid resovoir if I can maneuver it in there.

Thanks,

 

[1LE]

HKS EVC-EZ. Does exactly what I need it to do

 

[Slappster]

What does the in car hks evc-ez unit look like? Anybody got some pics?

 

[Ludachris]

Originally posted by Slappster
What does the in car hks evc-ez unit look like? Anybody got some pics?

Check the Parts Catalog.

I would just go for the Hallman Pro Series MBC. You can control it from inside the car and you get the stability of an MBC. However, the Dejon EBC sounds like it may have solved the issues all the other EBC's have suffered from. We'll see when Dave starts offering them on a larger scale.

 

[Mike 99GSX]

Originally posted by Slappster
What does the in car hks evc-ez unit look like? Anybody got some pics?

little black box with a power button and one control knob.

 

[Green93TalonTSi]

I had an HKS EVC-IV , and I hated it ! But boost respone was awesome ! It held the waste gates hut until i hit desired boost, and swtiching between low and high bosot was good too. thats the only thing I liked about the EVC -IV . Other than that I hated it, i always went into over boost ! it never held at my desired boost level, if I set it for 15psi, it always wanted to go more ! then I set to 11psi and get going beyond 11psi and I alwayz hit overboost, and then the unit would nock boost down to 10psi. And that thign was a pain in the ass to use ! SO i switched back to a MBC, turboXS HPBC, i have it mounted away from the heat, so it wont burn my fingers, .

 

[sunflashx]

Originally posted by Violater101
Not to hijack your thread, but while we are on the subject of EBC's, how much quicker RPM wise would you say a MBC spools on a 50trim t3/t4 style turbo? Also, how much of a difference is the hose coming from the wg to the EBC's "Black Box" going to matter? Right now, I have the Profec B and it works fine. No Creep or Spike. However, I have the box mounted on the passenger side underneath my air filter. This means that my hoses are fairly lengthy. If I reduced the length of the hose by half, would that make a big difference in Spool Up time (100-200 rpms?) I am leaning towards moving it over on the driver's side by the power steering fluid resovoir if I can maneuver it in there.

Thanks,

A MBC won't spool it faster. Most say the EBC gives slightly faster spool.

Shortening the lines reduces likelyhood of boost spike if I recall correctly. No significant amount of spool to be had.

 

[sunflashx]

Further use of the profec B Spec II had me liking it better than the old profec B. I also think my boost is fluctating less than it did with the old profec and much less than it did with the MBC.

 

[GSX]

Originally posted by 98RedGs
http://www.joepmbc.com/embc.htm

Thats a link to joe p's new E-MBC.

I dont have much more information on it but i know they have been getting them over at dsmtalk.com for a while and they are loving them to death!

Here's the nitty gritty on the Joe P E-MBC. Installed one on a friend's car a while back.

Dislikes:

(1) I am pretty sure you'll have to extend the wiring harness to hook it to the power sources in the console, even such places as DIN mounts will stretch the harness pretty tight.

(2) The control unit is big, bigger than the picture on the site lets on. It will not wedge between the seat and console like most other EBCs and will not fit in a standard DIN in the event you are runnning an aftermarket deck - just plan ahead, as we put his in his glove box.

(3) The control unit has no back lighting, so adjustments made while driving [in the dark] can be tricky as you are searching for the + and - knobs to adjust boost.

(4) Lastly, in searching for these buttons realize that the control unit case has a few extra holes bored in it that are simply covered be the Joe P decal .. if you were to press to hard against the decal one could break the decal and expose of the extra holes in the control unit (just an FYI).

Likes:

(1) Hooks up in minutes, minimal effort using simple one page instructions and wiring harness.

(2) Quality stepper motor, the stepper motor looks to be encased in metal as opposed to most other EBC's plastic, including mine, that would appear to increase its durability. Plus it is small in size for easy placement.

(3) Adjustability, it's either a + or -. I've found that holding any button down for about a half second will yield a pound or two in psi adjustment. Once you get comfortable .. adjustments made in 'daylight' can easily be made.

(4) Again, lastly, this is a E-MBC which gives the simplicity of an EBC with some in car adjustability. If you go new, this is a great price of the comfort of in car adjustability. If you are considering a used purchase, some of the reviews above will give you quality EBCs at similar prices.

Editorial note. I started with the Greddy Profec B, one on each of my cars. I no longer have either because of the limited boost to be achieved on 'low' boost, and the trouble I had getting it to sustain boost when at the track and turning it up past say 22 psi. I managed to purchase one of the last new EVC-EZ units from HKS. It's money, nice size with backlighting, and easy of use because I just turn the knob until desired psi is set. I vote for a used EVC-EZ.

My .02 cents, thanks.