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peregrine

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Oct 8, 2002
lookin for 9s country, Nevada
never thought my car could be this fast:) that being said it made so much power that the tranny is dead:( think its just a shift fork. anyways, im having trouble with pump gas as the lowest boost i can run is 17 psi and thats too much for 91 octane. i thought of getting the softer wastegate but said screw it the car can eat 118 leaded from now on:) i took it out last night and started tuning for 20 psi with 114 gas. i ended up leaving my afc knobs(old style) at -15% on the last three settings. i was still pig rich but this gave me 22-23* timing and no knock. illl run 118 in the future so i can lean it out more. the car absolutely FLEW. i figure its gotta be in the 116-118 trap range. its a whole different animal at the new power levels. ill get the tranny back together with a 4 spider diff and start looking for a 4 bolt rear. im gonna need it. threshold is about 3100 rpm and its starts pulling about 3600 rpm and its into full boost by about 4100 rpm. i can adjust the wastegate some more for better response but it was getting dark and i was excited. i raced a pack of street bikes and the only one i couldnt beat was a hayabusa. ill get him with some more tuning:D the injectors were a pain in the ass as they leaked until i figured out how to make them stop. the reason they leak is that the top portion of the injector is shorter than stock so the little rubber hat that sits under the o-ring got smushed up when i tightened it down. my fix was to go to napa and buy two sets of o-rings and then in place of the hat i put the little donut o ring thingies that the injector sits in on the head on top of the injector under the orings. this makes a nice tight seal with no leaks. AGP had the turbo to me in under a week and gave me a great price on it too. i highly recommend this trim compressor wheel as it is great for higher boost race gas settings. its not as efficient (on paper) as the 50 trim on pump but real power is made on race gas (except rdrkt:thumb: ) it spools quick and kicks ass on the top. im extremely happy with this setup. only things left to do is get an AFPR, 255 high pressure, 272/272 combo and a magnus intake and i should have a 450 horse street monster. ask away if you have questions.
 
what on gods earth are you talking about
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Originally posted by jdmawd
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let me spell it out for you. B-I-G T-U-R-B-O = B-I-G- P-O-W-E-R
W-I-T-H R-I-G-H-T S-U-P-P-O-R-T-I-N-G M-O-D-S. is that easy enough for you?
 

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Good job dude, sounds like a lot of fun:cool:
however I dont know what you mean that you cant get timing on 91 octane... You shoudl be able to run at leist 17psi on 91 if tuned correctly.
However if you are still on teh stock 1G maf and only hae the old afc for tuning then you are definetly lacking as for as being able to take advantage of the new settup. You should consider (if you arent going to go to far in depth) a 2G maf or a translater and a new afcII. Im sure you could crank it out so you dont have to keep spending mad lute on the race fuel:thumb: Good luck

Austin
 
i think about that but now it looks like im gonna have to spend about $1500 on the tranny to get halfway reliable. shit man if al blaha can run 10's on the 1g maf then im fine for now. ill get it all figured out. more a matter of time than money. by the way did you sell your car austin?
 
Originally posted by peregrine


let me spell it out for you. B-I-G T-U-R-B-O = B-I-G- P-O-W-E-R
W-I-T-H R-I-G-H-T S-U-P-P-O-R-T-I-N-G M-O-D-S. is that easy enough for you?

Thank you for the clarification, its obvious that your car makes mad powa now.
 
Originally posted by jdmawd


Thank you for the clarification, its obvious that your car makes mad powa now.

yeah and just think, i did my homework and it only took ONE turbo to get there. imagine that.
 
Originally posted by peregrine


yeah and just think, i did my homework and it only took ONE turbo to get there. imagine that.

Where exactly is this place that you feel you have arrived? Racing bikes around the freeway, oh wow what an accomplishment:rolleyes: This is the worst turbo review in the history of all turbo reviews ever posted on the Internet.

highly recommend this trim compressor wheel as it is great for higher boost race gas settings. its not as efficient (on paper) as the 50 trim on pump but real power is made on race gas
:rolleyes:

the car absolutely FLEW. i figure its gotta be in the 116-118 trap range. its a
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i raced a pack of street bikes and the only one i couldnt beat was a hayabusa. ill get him with some more tuning
:rolleyes:xa billion

only things left to do is get an AFPR, 255 high pressure, 272/272 combo and a magnus intake and i should have a 450 horse street monster.

:rolleyes:Xtrillion
 
:laugh: Jeez I see a little tension between a couple people...eh hemm: not mentioning any names: eh hemm;)

I thought Id be nice and congradulate someone. I mean the bike thing and the 450 horse thing is a little off but the guy is excited. No need to bag on JDM for making some silly choices either (Im the mediator if you didnt realize;) )....
So lets all just calm down, be rational and stop hating the playa's:D
 
how is the bike thing and 450 horses "off"? remember bikes are naturally aspirated and im at 4200 ft here. also 450 horses is completely reasonable with the existing mods and the planned mods stated above.
 
Originally posted by peregrine
how is the bike thing and 450 horses "off"? remember bikes are naturally aspirated and im at 4200 ft here. also 450 horses is completely reasonable with the existing mods


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Originally posted by jdmawd



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oh im sorry, i meant that that combo would net 450 horses on everyone BUT jdm's car. sorry bro. my bad. ill tell you what, ill have a timeslip on the 19th for ya. you get your timeslip and we'll compare dicks OK? i guarantee mines bigger. or is your car a "street" car? dont be scurd'.
 
Originally posted by peregrine


oh im sorry, i meant that that combo would net 450 horses on everyone BUT jdm's car. sorry bro. my bad. ill tell you what, ill have a timeslip on the 19th for ya. you get your timeslip and we'll compare dicks OK? i guarantee mines bigger. or is your car a "street" car? dont be scurd'.

I dont really care what some fruit basket 3 THOUSAND miles away in the nevada desert does. (sorry)

oh wait, let me put this in a form that you can understand.

I dont. really care. what, some fruit basket! 3 THOUSAND miles away in the nevada desert does. Foshizel my nizzle NAAAAAAAAAAAAAWS. BLING BLING i got mad flow in my turbo YO,.!?";xyzGrrrrrrrr drop it like its hot. its,,,,,......???? gosta, be hot CUZ its on my ride YO how do you tune it again??? never mind, turn the boost up so i can beat this bike. oh shit! my trany broke, no matter im rich as hell let me adjust my timing screw that, ill just get some 118 and add more boost YO for my 450 horse dyno pull BLING BLING drop it like its hot. i got the block on fire holla at ya boy HOVA.



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fruitcake? im sorry if you think you can smell your own but you got me wrong. i dont speak eubonics so youll have to speak plain ol english from now on for me to understand you.you LOVE to argue on here JDM. almost as much as you hate fords. by the way i noticed a few weeks back that you were bitching and moaning about your cams ceasing up. we never got a reason would you care to elaborate? the nice thing about my car is that ive installed EVERY part on my car CORRECTLY and it runs like a champ. can you say the same, chump? http://www.speedstreet.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=46043#post46043

and you say im rich? god id love to spend money on my car like you do. i heard around the way that your slangin. is this true? that would explain your 19 turbos and countless mishaps that dont seem to phase your pocketbook. http://www.speedstreet.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=47926#post47926
 
Originally posted by peregrine
the nice thing about my car is that it runs like a champ. can you say the same, chump?

Sure can, my car ####ing rips right now. It has a great turbo, it idles perfectly and is relatively well tuned on pump at 25 psi. since you have not done much more then install a turbo and a down pipe. I can see that you have not had any install issues. You have virtually nothing done to your car. You installed a huge turbo, then botched the injector install and you broke your transmission BWAHAAA. Get a clue son you sound like an idiot.

On the very same board you linked to, I posted exactly what was causing my cam shaft and timing belt problem. I have no problem with making mistakes its all part of learning the car you drive.

Originally posted by peregrine
countless mishaps that dont seem to phase your pocketbook. http://www.speedstreet.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=47926#post47926

God i love those seats they feeeeeeel so good:thumb:
 
Originally posted by jdmawd


Sure can, my car ####ing rips right now. It has a great turbo, it idles perfectly and is relatively well tuned on pump at 25 psi. since you have not done much more then install a turbo and a down pipe. I can see that you have not had any install issues. You have virtually nothing done to your car. You installed a huge turbo, then botched the injector install and you broke your transmission BWAHAAA. Get a clue son you sound like an idiot.

virtually nothing done? your right "sport". and you know what? its faster than yours. guaranteed. i see you sidestepped my time slip offer. whatever. thats fine. as for the turbo and downpipe thing, well, lets see; hmmm... installed turbo by myself, intercooler, crane ignition, r&red head by myself (got the timing belt perfect FIRST try! no bent valves here "tiger" ;)), fuel pump, full suspension, rebuilding tranny now BY MYSELF, brakes, fabbed up catback myself, wow, actually everything thats been done to the car ive done myself. hmmph. imagine that. im just a lowly carpetlayer too. no dealing of rock here.

botched the injector install? why because they leaked? id like to see you improvise a solution if you had to. oh wait youll just pay someone to rape you on labor and then when that install goes bad youll bi*** and moan on this board and go blow another $1000 to have it fixed and the whole cycle starts over.

25 psi on pump?!?!? but in this post here http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=544159#post544159 you say 23. which is still a load of shit on straight pump. and you think im looking like an idiot? wow. id like to see your pocket logs. maybe they have AV gas at the pumps in D.C. metro. must be nice.



On the very same board you linked to, I posted exactly what was causing my cam shaft and timing belt problem. I have no problem with making mistakes its all part of learning the car you drive.


no you dont learn. you say f*ck it and pay someone else to make your car fast. face it, your a wannabe. you cant hack it so you farm out your work to someone else. price be damned. cheers.
 
whats with this guy and periods:confused:

Anyway, at that time i was running 23 psi and since then i added a couple more pounds because she was running so good a 23.:thumb: One thing you will soon realize, is that i don't feel the need to lie or exaggerate about shit.



and you know what? its faster than yours. guaranteed

awww who didn't know you were a bench racer, with your estimated trap speeds and guess-timated dyno numbers.:laugh:

oh wait youll just pay someone to rape you on labor and then
when that install goes bad youll bi*** and moan on this board and go blow another $1000 to have it fixed and the whole cycle starts over.

I have an awesome mechanic, he builds and races rally evo's. Wonderful man I paid 600 for a new head line boring rebuild and installation including the removal of the old head.:thumb:

you say 23. which is still a load of shit on straight pump. and you think im looking like an idiot? wow. id like to see your pocket logs. maybe they have AV gas at the pumps in D.C.

Nope just simple Sunoco 94 and good tuning, I can see by your many idiotic posts that the tuning process escapes you.:laugh:

no you dont learn. you say f*ck it and pay someone else to make your car fast. face it, your a wannabe

wannabe what? my car is everything i wanted it to be from day 1.To be quite honest, if brand specific tuning shops did not charge outrageous prices. I would not turn one wrench on my car EVER. Im not a mechanic and I hate getting my hands dirty with this shit.
 
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