quick honing question>>

[NOMIEZVR4]

i was wondering, wat size honing do i need to get?
i am asking the size of the dingel berry.. i went to Napa and i needed the dingle berry to hone my cylinders...they said they have different sizes
the list was...
Hone Size Minimum working diameter
1. 89mm 83mm
2. 95mm 89mm
3. 105mm 95mm

i had those three options given to me.....the main thing is the hone size...anyone have any ideas???

 

[Defiant]

You have an 85mm bore, you want the first hone. Ask their machinist if they have any tips while you're there, too.

 

[NOMIEZVR4]

thanks alot

 

[Suparata]

Originally posted by Defiant
You have an 85mm bore, you want the first hone. Ask their machinist if they have any tips while you're there, too.

Now Gentleman here we have a perfect lesson of how to subtly advise somebody to do the right thing being also helpful by answering the guys question.
My respects Defiant. You are indeed a Wiseman.
Mitch Rusu.

 

[Nomad666]

What about a 1g?

 

[coos]

same on the 1g... it's like a really big wheel cylinder if you have ever honed one, you are looking to have a nice even bore with a nice 45 degree cross hatch to help the rings break in with the walls. If you have never done any kind of honing then the best thing to remember is to keep smooth even strokes, do not stop at the tops and bottom too long, or you can put a wierd taper in the cylinders. Try to get as little taper as possible. And make sure when you are done that you wash the walls with soap and water, and then wd-40 to prevent rust.

 

[Defiant]

Originally posted by Suparata


Now Gentleman here we have a perfect lesson of how to subtly advise somebody to do the right thing being also helpful by answering the guys question.
My respects Defiant. You are indeed a Wiseman.
Mitch Rusu.

You're only fooling yourself, Mitch. I'm as much a caustic smartmouth as the rest of us. It's just nice to see someone post a straightforward, answerable question, as opposed to the usual "My fritzjammer clicks, should it? I don't know what it's really called, can someone else look it up in a book for me?"

I'm as much WiseAss as Wiseman. I just try to keep track of the fact that I don't have _all_ the answers.

Regardless all that, thank you so much for the kind sentiment.

Oh, and 45° is a little more steep than I've been told for cylinder bore crosshatch, I've heard (and used) 15°. I don't think it's a crucial spec.

 

[coos]

Accually it is a pretty critical point. Most manuals will tell you 60 degrees. At my old work the sunnen manual said a 45 degree cross hatch.

 

[Defiant]

I'll go with your correction, was the Sunnen for a cast block, or sleeves? The more-shallow angle's worked fine for me, but it was just the number thrown to me by an old machinist. I'm off to read more.

 

[MNGSX]

It all really depends on the type of rings used.

Go with the ring MFG's suggested angle.

 

[coos]

It was in general, so it was talking about cast iron in the sunnen manual. Look in the dsm manual. I don't have one in front of me but i am pretty sure it would say like 60 degrees crosshatch. its the same as a wheel cylinder or master cylinder when you hone. I have never heard of a 15 degree angle. weather cast iron or sleeved wont matter, its all the same suface finish your looking for.

 

[pneumo]

Good memory, the Haynes manual says 60 degrees.

 

[gen1runner]

60

 

[Puller]

just since ur on the topic, i was in the autozone scoping out the flame steering wheel and matching seat covers when i overheard someone renting a hone and the guy at the desk said check your repair manual to be sure of how steep your crosshatch angle is, and the guy replied with "yea i know, 180, trust me i've done this before". i just pretended to laugh at the neon shift knobs.

 

[1fast97gsx]

neon shift knobs are not a joking matter ... if used properly along with the right choice of color at full moon you will gain at LEAST 15 hp

 

[Puller]

i've heard the skull shifter with red eyes in some cases manifests awd onto cavaliers and such.

 

[anomalyinva]

It has been said, but your stock bore is 85mm, so depending on pistons (stock vs forged) you will want a 85 45-60 (depending on rings) if getting a sunen hone. As well, my gtech pro 7433 said I gained 3/10ths by getting a led exhaust tip!